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Your Game Sucks
author=halibabica link=topic=3818.msg76649#msg76649 date=1243247972
BUT, encouraging developers of RPGs to make their games shorter does make a lot of sense to me. Game making is much more complicated business than a person might initially think, and taking on a massive project like an epic RPG can result in all kinds of problems (most of which are the stigmas now associated with RM* games, especially first projects).
I still say that people should make whatever they want, but if you're new or not capable of making an epic RPG, you should consider his advice and make something shorter or easier. Save the big stuff for later!
Yeah, basically. This isn't so difficult to grasp.
Your Game Sucks
author=Nightblade link=topic=3818.msg76352#msg76352 date=1243101700
I don't remember using the word "tweak". Excessive "use" of "quotation" "marks" is pretty bad on the "internet" it "seems".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark#Quotations_and_speech
I don't get the point of your post. I got that it's meant to be sarcastic, but what has 'remaking a game seven or eight times' got to do with anything? Sorry to pre-empt, but if you mean that making several short games = remaking the same game, it just proves my point that people don't think enough.
Your Game Sucks
Well, if they're spending years creating an epic RPG, that takes a longer time to 'tweak' and make non-crappy than a shorter game would. The scale of the project can relate to its quality.
And where does this 'don't make games for other people' thing come from? It's not all or nothing. It's not much to ask for creators to step back from their initial "I wanna make a big epic rpg with loads of adventures and heroes and you can have different weapons and ride different dragons and OMG even get an airship" brainwave and think a little.
What annoys me about these kinds of topics is that a gaggle of posters always comes along and says either:
A. PEOPLE CAN MAKE WHATEVER THEY WANT
or
B. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CLICHES. IT'S ALL ABOUT EXECUUUUTION
(And Nightblade, these would be the typical answers to your question about people making their games 'more interesting.'
And while A and B are true, it seems like it's just use as a crappy excuse to not think a little when you're creating your game. And Yellow Magic, it's a pity that people won't at least 'consider' changing their opinion when reading topics like this.
I'm not saying the epic RPGs are a problem -- it's just that people just seem to underestimate the task, and if you enjoy making games/generating ideas, then surely you must have a story you could tell that won't take an unrealistic amount of time to create.
I'm dying to create an epic RPG, but I know that I can't just spew out my 'magnum opus' just like that. I'd rather release small, complete projects, gain criticism/feedback, and hone my craft before trying something huge.
And where does this 'don't make games for other people' thing come from? It's not all or nothing. It's not much to ask for creators to step back from their initial "I wanna make a big epic rpg with loads of adventures and heroes and you can have different weapons and ride different dragons and OMG even get an airship" brainwave and think a little.
What annoys me about these kinds of topics is that a gaggle of posters always comes along and says either:
A. PEOPLE CAN MAKE WHATEVER THEY WANT
or
B. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CLICHES. IT'S ALL ABOUT EXECUUUUTION
(And Nightblade, these would be the typical answers to your question about people making their games 'more interesting.'
And while A and B are true, it seems like it's just use as a crappy excuse to not think a little when you're creating your game. And Yellow Magic, it's a pity that people won't at least 'consider' changing their opinion when reading topics like this.
I'm not saying the epic RPGs are a problem -- it's just that people just seem to underestimate the task, and if you enjoy making games/generating ideas, then surely you must have a story you could tell that won't take an unrealistic amount of time to create.
I'm dying to create an epic RPG, but I know that I can't just spew out my 'magnum opus' just like that. I'd rather release small, complete projects, gain criticism/feedback, and hone my craft before trying something huge.
Release Something! Day VII: Advent Children [June 20th]
Your Game Sucks
I agree with him. Come on, let's not cop out and go for they 'people can make whatever games they want' argument. I'd like to think that there are a few ambitious people here genuinely wanting to 'try new things.'
And as was said, another route to the 'epic RPG' is episodic installments.
I'm planning to release a small game this Release Something. I've been meaning to for a while.
And as was said, another route to the 'epic RPG' is episodic installments.
I'm planning to release a small game this Release Something. I've been meaning to for a while.
Community History
author=Karsuman link=topic=2342.msg70303#msg70303 date=1239400232
I've been aware of the community since the earliest iterations of RM95 games, left it for a few years, came back when rm2k was released.
Been around ever since. Didn't start posting anywhere till like 2003-2004, though(initially at GW). I later migrated here and am one of this site's oldest and active members.
Wink, wink.
[VX] Take it, Make it, Pass it (Project TMP) Chain game V5
[VX] Take it, Make it, Pass it (Project TMP) Chain game V5
author=Hesufo link=topic=3278.msg65746#msg65746 date=1236614302author=Scribble link=topic=3278.msg65745#msg65745 date=1236614181
Does this work:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gjnwnltlyk2
There's no need to be anal about it, Hesufo. I spent quite a while adding something, and since no-one else has taken it, there's no harm in letting this one count.
I was just stating that because maia was sort of pushing you to have the game passed when the deadline hadn't even been met yet.
Which means that you were okay with the time. :)
Bah. Forgive me for being such a rash idiot. Just got back from college and skimmed the thread =/ So sorry =X
Good luck, TooManyToasters
[VX] Take it, Make it, Pass it (Project TMP) Chain game V5
Does this work:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gjnwnltlyk2
There's no need to be anal about it, Hesufo. I spent quite a while adding something, and since no-one else has taken it, there's no harm in letting this one count.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gjnwnltlyk2
There's no need to be anal about it, Hesufo. I spent quite a while adding something, and since no-one else has taken it, there's no harm in letting this one count.
[VX] Take it, Make it, Pass it (Project TMP) Chain game V5
I'm uploading it right now. Sorry, my phone line decided to drop JUST as I was trying to upload it last night. Won't happen again!
OK. I had a lot of crap on my plate so I didn't get to add as much as I wanted to.
Passing It!
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0e142d7752d94ba8d2db6fb9a8902bda
Changes:
- Allowed access past Banon Watchpost (Only temporarily, so I could test events)
Additions:
- Added Banon Watchpost interior and additional characters
- Added Henny's 'family from another town'. Haven't added the town yet, but his family is on the map being attacked by a monster. I'll work on their event when they get to the village next time.
I wanted to flesh out as many random villagers as I could. In hindsight, maybe at this stage doing all the 'worldbuilding' would be better. Also, my additions need plenty of polishing, if anyone's up for it. If not, I'll sort it out next time.
OK. I had a lot of crap on my plate so I didn't get to add as much as I wanted to.
Passing It!
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0e142d7752d94ba8d2db6fb9a8902bda
Changes:
- Allowed access past Banon Watchpost (Only temporarily, so I could test events)
Additions:
- Added Banon Watchpost interior and additional characters
- Added Henny's 'family from another town'. Haven't added the town yet, but his family is on the map being attacked by a monster. I'll work on their event when they get to the village next time.
I wanted to flesh out as many random villagers as I could. In hindsight, maybe at this stage doing all the 'worldbuilding' would be better. Also, my additions need plenty of polishing, if anyone's up for it. If not, I'll sort it out next time.













