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author=demondestiny link=topic=954.msg15913#msg15913 date=1210499706
author=Darken link=topic=954.msg15518#msg15518 date=1210295432
but I like the soundtrack and gameplay.

Yeah, i find the soundtrack to be really good as well. Square enix always compose some great music for the games.
I don't think they actually composed much this time. From what I heard, they mostly just found bands around Shibuya and put their tracks in the game.

The World Ends With You

Nomura's artwork is fairly signature. I mean you can almost always tell Nomura had a hand in it when you see it (if nothing else, just count the number of zippers, but the way he uses lines and the proportions he uses are pretty obvious, too). So I don't think "generic" is the word you're looking for. Uninteresting, unmemorable, uninspired, maybe--but that's a matter of taste. I've never been as down on him as most people seem to be, but that's probably just because I don't mind people looking like a cross between Mickey Mouse and Gackt.

Personally I've enjoyed it a lot. It stands out from other games I've played, toys with a lot of really cool concepts in interesting and amusing ways and never feels like it's pandering. I know it's not cool to give Nomura credit, but the art style fits the game pretty perfectly (a lot better than it fit Kingdom Hearts, for example), and the use of graffitti and tattoo inspired artwork gives the whole thing a consistent and engaging visual style.

My only real complaint is that the hero is once again an angsty loner. And that the girls' pants and skirts are either worn way too low or there is way too much definition given to the abdomenal muscles. Feels a little squicky.

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author=harmonic link=topic=1084.msg15698#msg15698 date=1210427574
No, the human mind is not defined by which country we live in. Have you never learned about culture in school? Tradition? Patriotism? "Who we are" if you want to get really optimistic, is a shining beacon of hope for liberty across the world. Another person might say we're the harbinger of the apocalypse because of our sinful and decadent lifestyles. Has nothing to do with the oversimplified interpretation of us as monkeys on a giant rock. Sheesh, and I thought I had a bleak world view!
My world view isn't bleak, it's my view of nations, governments, and institutions that's bleak. I'm a gung-ho humanist. Culture is fine and dandy, but I don't see where I should be any more defensive of American culture than any other. What, just because I pay taxes in America, I should like Saturday Night Live more than Monty Python's Flying Circus? Oh, wait, SNL's produced by a Canadian, isn't it? Or you're talking more about America's political policies I'm supposed to be defending. Like the PATRIOT Act, the War Powers bill and the criminalization of clearly civil matters because the lobbying groups involved *cough*RIAA*cough* have more clout than the senators?

I consider myself a citizen of the world first, the human race second, my city third, my state fourth and my country a distant fifth. I care about the wellbeing of the people around me....but I don't particularly care what language they speak, or what culture they belong to. I don't understand why those would be considerations.

author=brandonabley link=topic=1084.msg15770#msg15770 date=1210447626
That picture is really funny!

I think that America should accept English as its official language because it is the language that almost all legal citizens of the US speak and because it is the language that almost all of the educated world conducts serious business. All of the founding documents of our country are written in language, almost all of its literature is, and all iconic pieces of American creativity (the Great American Novel, Rock and Roll music, etc) are written in the English language. It is our de facto official language and the language that identifies our country.

author=Shadowtext link=topic=1084.msg15628#msg15628 date=1210373311
I disagree. What you're supporting here is called nationalism, and it's the bane of any sane society. It's about 90% of the reason we're in as bad a situation internationally as we are now, and it's the cause of basically every totalitarian state that ever took root.

This is so far from Nationalism that I wish I could slap you through the internet :( Feeling that there is a heritage and an identity to a culture is not jingoistic, nationalistic, OR hubristic (look I can speak in NPR language too). Countries do have a national spirit and a national identity the same way that cities do and the same way that neighborhoods do and the same way that households do. You, of all people, being an enormous and unwavering Japanofile should know that Jesus Christ dude (not that there is anything wrong with that).
The internet's got such a kneejerk relationship with Japanese culture that anyone who shows a bit of interest in Japanese things is automatically labelled a Japanophile. No one accuses me of being an anglophile when I unabashedly rely on Britishisms for most of my slang and favorite comedies and my favorite authors (for both novels and comics), or of being a scandinaviophile when I develop a love for northern european synth-metal. Or of being a canadophile when a large number of my favorite performers are canadian. Or of being a latinophile for speaking Spanish and enjoying mariachi. Or of being a celtophile (which is a lot more on the mark, if you were to ask me) for my borderline obsession with Irish folklore and myth, music, and culture. But admit to liking the Pillows or hand-drawn cartoons with continuity or, gods forbid, jRPGs, and I'm a Japanophile!

See, but that's exactly it: my culture is decidedly not American. It's global. I pick and choose what I want to be part of based on what I enjoy. We're part of the internet generation, and anyone with any sense should see that the days of cultures being defined by physical location are going the way of vinyl records. Being attached to any particular aspect of culture simply because it's from the same country you are (or because it's from any country, for that matter) is insanity. There's a global buffet of culture to choose from, and choosing one based solely on where you are is....boring and unimaginative, at best.

And it is nationalism, Him. The idea of a cultural identity or spirit based on one's nation is the gods-damned definition of nationalism.

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author=harmonic link=topic=1084.msg15630#msg15630 date=1210374205
So you're saying we should sacrifice who we are because if we want to define who we are, we're causing the problems of today?
I can't even begin to comprehend the concept of a mind which defines itself based on which country it's in. Especially since a country has never impressed me as anything more than an imaginary shape drawn on a giant rock, where a bunch of monkeys get together and decide to treat the the monkeys living in the other imaginary shapes as inferior.

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author=harmonic link=topic=1084.msg15624#msg15624 date=1210371017
Every nation, whether or not it's as diverse as this one is, needs a cultural identity, of which language is the basis.
I disagree. What you're supporting here is called nationalism, and it's the bane of any sane society. It's about 90% of the reason we're in as bad a situation internationally as we are now, and it's the cause of basically every totalitarian state that ever took root.

A cultural identity isn't something we should be encouraging, if for no other reason than that it's a foregone conclusion to begin with. American culture has already taken over basically the entire globe. The fact that someone speaks predominantly a non-English language does not change the fact that they're buying McDonald's hamburgers and shopping at Wal-Mart, or that in the medium of entertainment, the most likely performers or artists that aren't from their own country that they're likely to recognize are going to be American.

Besides, what is exactly preserved about culture by telling people that when they talk to the government, they have to speak in English? And what exactly would change, seeing as I doubt most government workers are multilingual to begin with?

But if we do declare a national language, I think we should choose Creek or Cherokee or something. If we're going to defend national honor with an arbitrary assignment of language, we should at least choose one that started here.

Cajun French might also be acceptable. But there are only about five people left who speak it, so we'll have to hurry.

Also: it strikes me as an issue to be decided at the State level.

demondestiny's anime topic!!!

author=CherryBomb link=topic=1049.msg15335#msg15335 date=1210220732
author=Shadowtext link=topic=1049.msg15185#msg15185 date=1210188690
You can't allow your own interests to be defined by the fanbases of the material. Not only is it madness, but it's slavery to PR, and it makes it impossible to like....well anything. Because just about anything worth experiencing is going to have people who are way too into it, and those people are always going to be annoying.

True, but I dislike being associated with stupidity and idiots depress me. :,(

That is why I gave up Sonic the Hedgehog. I also love signing up on anime forums to post topics filled with insights of mine, such as: "u guiz whach 2 many cartunes, lol" and watch "koosatah bahkaaaaaa!!!!!!" flow in.

Oh, and I enjoy hating things. I guess that solves that. :I
The internet reached hatred critical mass years ago. OPEN YOUR HEART TO LOVE AND PEACE, CHERRYBOMB! I have it on good authority they're what this world is made of, you know!

We need some Politics. Your thoughts?

author=brandonabley link=topic=974.msg15287#msg15287 date=1210211573
I don't get it.
It's a reference to Gurren Lagann. I'd explain, but I doubt it'd help you out. The reference is really only amusing if you've seen the source, rather than hearing about it.

Hrm...Some Suggestions For An RPG.

BoF didn't really come into its own until it hit Playstation, if you ask me. III, IV, and Dragon Quarter are miles ahead of the first two.

I HATE YOU

I don't think I get the concept. Why would you have a character that you hate in something you're making in the first place? I mean I guess a character can get derailed, and you might START to hate him....but if that happens why should he stay in the thing?

I mean even if he's an evil bastard or a terrible person, you ought to be able to love writing for him or at least love the effects he has on the other characters. If you don't, I don't see any reason to keep him in the thing. Do you think the audience would like the character any more than you do?

I suppose if the whole point of the thing is to hate the character, it might be okay. Like Always Sunny in Philadelphia purposefully makes all of its main characters pretty disgusting....but there's still a sort of attraction to both the audience and the writer even there, I think. They're not likeable, but they're entertaining. So I'm not sure I get the issue.

We need some Politics. Your thoughts?

author=harmonic link=topic=974.msg15224#msg15224 date=1210201477
The concept of "quit" is not programmed into Hillary Clinton. She will fight to the bitter end.

Dammit, harmonic. How am I supposed to not vote for her now that you've put THIS image in my mind?!



And I liked Obama so much better, too. Oh, well.