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must be all that rtp in your diet
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Timeline Clarification + Scenario Synopsis

author=heisenman
And... Wish is Titania... lol.


Wish is just the vessel for Titania's soul ... there's a few parts in Edifice where she "demons out" and is obviously not herself, if I recall correctly. So Wish is actually a different person with both souls inside of her (I think)

Creating a “Jump” skill ala Kain from Final Fantasy IV for Claimh’s side-battle system using events

author=Craze
I'm not even going to bother attacking your tutorial itself.
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Allow me to assist in the form of a question!

Why would you bother to make a complicated event process to produce a skill that you could make via scripting about 1000x easier?

Especially since this tutorial is geared towards eventing a skill to work with a specific, obscure side-view battle system that I've never heard of before.

Skippable combat?

author=LockeZ
author=Melkino
author=LockeZ
but they still will skip battles if there's a "skip battle" option, because they have no self control and it will be more enjoyable for a brief moment.
(citation needed)
'We remove discriminative stimuli when we turn away from a stimulus which induces aversive action. We may forcibly look away from a wallpaper design which evokes the compulsive behavior of tracing geometrical patterns. We may close doors or draw curtains to eliminate distracting stimuli or achieve the same effect by closing our eyes or putting our fingers in our ears. We may put a box of candy out of sight to avoid overeating. This sort of self-control is described as "avoiding temptation," especially when the aversive consequences have been arranged by society. It is the principle of "Get thee behind me, Satan.'

Skinner, B.F. Science and Human Behavior, Chapter XV p. 233


That doesn't actually back up your point. It proves the opposite of your point - that you would actually go put the cookies away to avoid eating them. Try not shooting yourself in the foot with your next citation, mmmkay?

Skippable combat?

author=LockeZ
Players like feeling the immense satisfaction of having fully completed a game through their own power, but they still will skip battles if there's a "skip battle" option, because they have no self control and it will be more enjoyable for a brief moment.


what?

... what???

Skippable combat?

author=chana
author=LockeZ
they probably don't ever think about what is and isn't fun
That's a little exaggerated, no? People who play games want to have fun and know very well what's fun or not, I'd even say they're the experts in that field, and, as game goes, it's on the contrary the ONLY thing they think about.


EXACTLY. Even if you've never played a game before, within a few attempts at something (combat, crafting, puzzles...) you are already forming an opinion of whether you like it or not.

You form opinions about what you are experiencing very rapidly. You could have only fought 5 battles in the beginning of the game and already be on your way to deciding if you like or hate the battle system. If combat is tedious and you can skip it, you will. If skipping combat bores you, you won't. This is interaction design 101.

Skippable combat?

author=LockeZ
@versalia: Uh, that's not a hyperbole on my part, that's the point of the article and the idea.

author=kentona
(It's not an all or nothing thing here... This isn't a "Should there be a Skip to the end button?" discussion)

also

author=LockeZ
I think if you intentionally lead people to an option that most of them won't find fun you're going to be called a bad game designer.

I don't think people would be "intentionally led" to skip combat. If combat is what you enjoy about the game, then you don't HAVE to skip it. No player will purposely take the option that isn't fun if they know it isn't fun to them. Hence option. Your argument basically boils down to "design the perfect game that is fun to every individual's play style, or you're a flawed developer."

Skippable combat?

author=LockeZ
you should realize you're talking about skipping bosses (which DOES give the reward, since the reward for fighting the boss is unlocking the next part of the game) including the final boss.


This seems like a stupid, extremist hyperbole. I don't know why you would include combat-skipping as a mechanic to ease the player's experience (
author=narcodis
It's not out of disgust for the game, or wanting to "cheat" the game. It's because they want to explore the environment, hear the music, speak with the NPCs, and see how the story unfolds!
) but then take it to the illogical conclusion of being able to skip the game's final boss. whut

Faith, religion, and you

author=kentona
but the thing is god isn't part of reality, so far as I understand the hypothesis. So by that logic, we can't define a god using logic.


Exactly. If it exists, which it more than likely doesn't, it's inexplicable.

Logic is only how we define things, as you said. In that sense, the "truth" is only how we perceive it to be. The truth is above the human understanding of logic. ;)

Faith, religion, and you

author=halibabica
everything's too complicated to have just fallen together randomly

Typical fallacy of the human mind.

author=halibabica
Math concepts are about as hard fact as you can get. You could reshape the universe any way you want, and it won't change the principles of math. It could change their applications, but the basics would remain the same.

Lots of Lovecraft stories feature non-Euclidian geometry - that is, a mathematical basis to reality that creates forms and shapes in dimensions the human mind is unfamiliar with and unable to grasp. Lots of his horror comes from not just the unimaginable but the literally unknowable and incomprehensible.

On a more agnostic note, if there IS any kind of supreme being or creator etc, I FIRMLY believe the human mind is completely incapable of properly understanding or perceiving the truth around it. Any guess we could possibly make must be wrong. Sort of like non-Euclidian geometry. If you stared into the truth, you'd go insane. MAYBE THOSE MAD PROPHETS WERE ONTO SOMETHING