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Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
author=Marrend
I've a question for this thread. So, back in 2012, I was a tester for a game called Memories Neverlasting by sbester. It's a game made in TsuK3 and is a mix of RPG and Visual Novel elements. A download was never made public, but, a private download was provided to testers. I still have the demo from those 6 years ago.
I suppose my question amounts to what interest this thread (or the archive I sometimes read about here) might have in a game like that?
I think that bringing that demo to the archive, or any old/obscure/forgotten game for that matter, would be great.
Sometimes great authors may wish to conceal their works even after their death, whenever it's for personal reasons or not, and that's perfectly reasonable. But preserving great works in spite of that might not be that bad.
I don't know if the author wishes for his game to be released to the world like this, so the best course of action would still be to try to find him and ask for his permission on the matter. If he/she has no problem with it, I think we should definitly preserve it.
author=LordBlueRouge
Hi guys ♥
@anyon175
Excellent find anyon175!!
I always get excited whenever I hear about someone finding original japanese rpgmaker games! I haven't had a chance to properly comment, but I also really like the let's plays you've been doing. Please keep up the good work friend ♥!! XD
Thank you. :)
I really hope that those let's plays contribute in some way to preserve the community and all those incredible games.
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
Hey guys, I found the original Romancing Walker version made by FLARE.
Or rather, eplipswitch did it in his post in 2014. Quite the amazing find.
The original game name is "WITH-WALKER" apparently.
Also, rmxpfan a.k.a. rm2kfanboy made a post explaining the changes he made on the original game to make the translated one. Very impressive.
And of course, I got it to work so I that I could show it to you guys.
Title Screen:
World Map:
Battle:
Latyss House:
Lai Lai Town:
Kah Mana Shrine:
Or rather, eplipswitch did it in his post in 2014. Quite the amazing find.
The original game name is "WITH-WALKER" apparently.
Also, rmxpfan a.k.a. rm2kfanboy made a post explaining the changes he made on the original game to make the translated one. Very impressive.
And of course, I got it to work so I that I could show it to you guys.
Title Screen:
World Map:
Battle:
Latyss House:
Lai Lai Town:
Kah Mana Shrine:
Making Games and Language Barriers
So yea, everyone knows that speaking another language can be a big barrier when you want to understand/be understood by another person. When it comes to books there may be translations that help convey the intended message in some way, or in comic books where there is also a lot of visual language involved.
When it comes to you guys, have you experienced something like that in life or in your games? How would you guys make a game, suposing that you couldn't make it in your native language and you wanted to convey your message to others?
When it comes to you guys, have you experienced something like that in life or in your games? How would you guys make a game, suposing that you couldn't make it in your native language and you wanted to convey your message to others?
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
author=Crashguy
First off, kudos to everyone who has contributed to this thread. This is awesome, and a wonderful backup. I'm actually looking for Space Funeral: The Legend of Earth Birth if anyone has it. It would seem the download link for it is no longer available.
Thanks Crashguy, if you also happen to find any game that is on the list your welcome to contribute to it too. :)
Well, now about Space Funeral. I don't have it unfortunately, but if I happen to find it eventually I'll post it here.
author=LordBlueRouge
Hi Blizz! ❤Hi folks,
one of the things Darken mentioned in the original archive thread was to give warning if one of us was going to be away from the archive for an undisclosed amount of time - I'm giving out that warning now.
I'm gonna be away from RMN for an undisclosed amount of time - not sure when I'm going to be back, but hopefully it won't be for too long, as I still have a lot of plans for this, including, creating that archive torrent I mentioned awhile ago - (I really want this archive project to eventually become the hg101 of rpgmaker games, but that's a far off idea at this point.)
...
...It pains me that I can't do more at the moment, cause there's so much I want to do with this down the road - because it's really exciting to see the stuff Darken and anyon175 are uncovering, I feel like the more we rediscover, the more we can eventually rebuild what was once lost from the community and then take that even further.
rpgmaker history is important:
final fantasy vs. dog, would not be possible without rpgmaker history.
the new rpgmaker2000/2003 video thread would not be possible without rpgmaker history.
There are so many cool and crazy things people are making right now, that would not be possible without studying what's come before.
the stuff we're doing right now, it's not that far removed from studying various art movements in art history (art deco, art nouveau, neoclassicism) and then trying to incorporate those principals in order to create something new.
this is why studying rpgmaker history is important.
....but ya, hopefully I'll be back shortly.
Taking care of the thread might be important, but our personal lifes must always precede in priority. I myself had some unexpected events to take care of and that took me quite a awhile to reply.
But yeah, I agree with you, studying art history was a very good analogy. And these games are important because they also show us what was possible to do at that time and see what is being done now. Not only in the technological aspect of it (as in the engine or the resources), but in terms of the evolution of the community and its members, aswell as discovering new cultures and new ways of thinking.
By the way, I got some very good news! I found out some hidden gems and decided to upload them here:
April Fools' Guys :)
Line's End: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k15zvtxrv15bcpx/line.rar?dl=0
Kinetic Cypher Complete: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k15zvtxrv15bcpx/kccomplete.rar?dl=0
... But yeah, not only that but I also made some Let's Play on some rare gems like Kindred Saga BS and Demon Legacy RM2k Demo:
Demon Legacy Demo Let's Play: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJug1QS5jgexl0VSQLAb9fHXZZ7BWwk_7
Kindred Saga BS Let's Play: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJug1QS5jgewyv0Ng1qRRaE6nK_mfsj8k
So yeah... Choose your poison guys. If you guys have some opinions you wanna share on these videos, feel free to tell me.
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
author=LordBlueRouge
I've always been a huge fan of Kindred Saga, so when I first heard about the Kindred Saga BS demo, I wanted to ask about it, but didn't have the time, so I want to echo Darken's sentiments:
This is a REALLY cool find guys.❤
This is like, finding a prototype for ff7 or like finding out Sonic 2 had scrapped levels, that didn't make it into the final version.
This is a really cool find.
Yea, my reaction when I found out the version I had of Kindred Saga BS had more content than BEP was pretty much along the lines of this:
author=Darken
Thanks so much for the find. Yeah it's interesting because I never really looked too far into BEP's files cause I just assumed most of it was a work in progress. But now that I got a copy with the proper starting position I never knew all this time there was a whole demo just lying within. But it is interesting, MAP18 of the forest entrance was changed to block you from rentering the first area of the game (changed deep in 2002 as opposed to the other maps more in 2001), then the forest exit was also blocked off with rocks.
Not to mention you start with Julia in the party, the battle windows are different. BEP's is black, BS has standard Bahamut Lagoon window skin.
My guess is that Qheretic didn't feel the demo reflected what Kindred Saga was story wise so he cut out the intro for it, hoping to just show off an earlier battle system.
I'll be spending my time tonight playing the older version of KS. It's so weird I'm still finding out shit about these old demos in 2018. All because I thought a tiny preview screenshot in a BR magazine cd looked odd. I almost didn't bring it up.
No problem. :D
Your guess is a good one, too bad a lot of people certainly missed the story too.
By the way, I was talking recently to KyleLascar, who had some problems playing Utopian Chaos, and I found out the version that is available for download indeed has some bugs. The game currently cannot be completed without opening the editor and making some changes to some specific events blocking the player's progress.
I have been thinking about fixing that bug as soon as I have some spare time and uploading a new version here.
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
author=Darken
Interesting, could I get a download for it? Of all my times on GGZ I recall the January BEP demo being the one up on the site and not the one you describe. Wonder why the latest version wasn't uploaded during that time. The forest section didn't seem to contain any story.
Very well, here it is. I also took the opportunity to see what the maps from both versions would look like inside the RM2k, and I found out the structure of the maps were indeed slightly different from each other. That and the Intro map with the party start position also had distinct start events from each other.
But besides that, most of the maps seemed almost identical, and both versions seem to have the story I mentioned. The BEP version however has somes switches triggered at the start and teleports you to the middle of the forest, skipping the story content for some reason.
author=Darken
BS likely stands for Battle System. as CBS was a popular term in the english community meaning Custom Battle System. Then again BEP meant Battle Engine something(Program?). So yeah weird it didn't use that, but thankfully I wouldn't have been as curious due to that weird renaming.
Doh! That makes sense...
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
author=Darken
@anyon175: Is that Kindred Saga BS any different from the BEPv212 (Demo)? http://www.rpgmakerarchive.net/2016/10/reference-gaminggroundzero-games.html (ctrl f BEPv212) Curious to find what that file is since if I recall... there's no way to get to that map/screenshot unless you cheat teleport to it.
Hmmm.... Indeed Darken. I opened the BEPv212 Demo and I found out that although it had the same number of maps (43 total) and most their dates were really close (January of 2001 for BEP Demo and February for Kindred Saga BS) there was an Intro and a plot in the Kindred Saga BS, while on the other one seems to start in the middle of the forest. The BS version also included a file from the old Brazillian community Maker Universe, commonly known as MU at that time.
Seems to me that this Kindred Saga BS version perhaps has more content than the other one. By the way, there is no description as to what the "BS" in the title stands for, then again most of the titles were wrong in that disc for some reason, like Legion Saga being called just Saga. The reason for those changes will forever remain a mistery to me.
author=LordBlueRouge
Guys, Darken is coming up with all this really great stuff rpgmaker history related, so keep your peels for that. ❤
Indeed, those games could have been lost forever without his help. Also Hedge1's contributions were amazing too.
author=LordBlueRouge
anyone175, those videos/disc, are a blast-from-the-past. I especially like the interface/ menu of disc 3, where it's setup like an isometric jrpg, where selecting each character's skill is like selecting an attack in a jrpg, but also in turn selecting a menu from the disc - this is really really cool!
Yes, the people at Digerati (the company who made those discs) at the time were really creative and really brought an immersive experience for their users. Who would think that they would later on save so much of the past and game history in such small discs (small in the disc maximum capacity sense). Amazing work.
author=LordBlueRouge
EDIT: Also, I love the nike ad, on disc one - there's something to be said about early 2000, video/web advertising. I really miss stuff like that.
Yea, I also put it there as an inside joke aswell. As in Brazil = Football Players and stuff like that. Hahaha. :D
author=LordBlueRouge
But ya like in general, this reminds me a lot of stuff that'd you see like in Mac Addict, where every month you'd get a magazine, but also there would be an interactive multimedia component that you could use on your computer as well - which is what these game discs were.
XD But dude it's just really cool to look at this stuff! To me, the way they present these games through these interactive menus - for me, this stuff never gets old! At one point, i wanted to do like, an rpgmaker demo disc, so it's really cool just to see, how these games were actually marketed from a professional publication.
Thanks for uploading these videos anyon175! ❤
No problem, I'm glad to be able to bring these games to you guys, since I'm having the oportunity to show tiny bits of Brazil's gaming history while also at same time contributing to this thread and helping preserve those games. It's an honour gentlemen. Hahaha :D
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
Okay... I finally uploaded the videos I mentioned. The videos I made are a little short and don't have much detail in it, but they describe the main interface to give you guys a feeling of... old-schoolness? Perhaps some kind of... nostalgia?
Uhh... Anyways, later I'll send some Let's Plays on the games that are inside those discs to show you guys some incredible games... And a lot of RTP games too.
The playlist I created is here.
Also, I believe the video quality is overall... Okay, but if you guys find it too laggy or if it's too hard to see some of the games screenshots, I'll try to find a better video recorder and upload a video to fix those issues.
Uhh... Anyways, later I'll send some Let's Plays on the games that are inside those discs to show you guys some incredible games... And a lot of RTP games too.
The playlist I created is here.
Also, I believe the video quality is overall... Okay, but if you guys find it too laggy or if it's too hard to see some of the games screenshots, I'll try to find a better video recorder and upload a video to fix those issues.
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
Hey guys, I finally uploaded some games I had with me, although some of them were indeed from Queens Court, the link is here.
The games are separated by two directories, one has English games and the other one has the Non-English games. There is also two lists, one for each of these directories. I also added some tags for the games in these lists hoping it would help finding certain games.
I decided I`ll also upload (hopefully sooner than later) some videos describing those discs I mentioned before aswell as some of its games.
Here is the English games list:
10000Bulletz
Abstract Paroxysm
ACBS_Deluxe
ACU_Shattered_Hearts
Amarok
Angels of Exodus
AquariusV0.105
Aurora Wing
Bakuenryu
Balmung
Beloved Rapture Demo v3.0 (Blindmind)
Bionic Plague
Black Fantasy
Blind Justice-Demo.exe
Blood Reign
Brothers
CG2
Chain Game 2
Chain Game 3
Chain Game 4
ChainOfRetribution_8
CMilBattleDemo
DawnofDarkness-bySolik
Dementia_Praecox
Densetsu Redone
demonlegacyDEMO
Destruction Of The Planet (RM2k)
DeusCard
Divinity Fatum.exe
dodln (DawnofDarkness-Legends)
Double Trouble 2 (Vindication Demo by LockeZ?)
DragonFull
Dragoon Legends Part One
EmbricDELUXE_2.2.2
Embric_of_Wulfhammers_Castle_1.2.2
Endless_Idiocy
Epoch1
epoch2
FatalDemo
Fate_of_an_Angel
FinalFallacyDoS
Final_Frontier
Gate2 (A gate into eternity)
Gates of Evocation (FIXED)
Guile Machination
Hunter_s_Joy
Ib105
Illumina
Initial_Fantasy_v2.0
Jang
JQ (Jennifer's Quest)
JQ2 (Jennifer's Quest 2)
Karma
Knights of Eden
Last Scenario v122
Lazo's Trip
Legend Quest
Legend Unabridged 1 (Brasington Lane)
Legend Unabridged 2 (Brasington Lane)
LEGENDS
Leon Quest 0.1.1.exe
Life Of Bob
Mage's Stance
mostachsheep
Mystic Legends Demo - Possibly v4 (Skie Fortress
Nadir__s_Canon
Name_73_(v.4.0)
One Night_5.1_8.exe
Onyx
PGGDG
Phylo
Phylomortis II CBS version
Rainbow_Nightmare
RanSag
realitybreakdown
Retsu Arashi Psychic Storm
River Dreams
RM2k Survivor NYSE - Demo v3 (RM2k) (JoJoface).r
RMXP_-_Phylomortis_-_Avane
Runic Legacy
Running Water
Secondary_Fantasy
Seekers of the Sun
Silenced Breakthrough
Solar Tear
Soul's Unrest
Starless_Umbra_Dragon_Heart_PACK
suneria
Take_DownLegacy_Remix
Take_Down_-_Lambs_of_Destiny
Take_Down_GRABBAG_OF_GOODNESS_
TGSAP (Tyrant God Saga)
The Kyrent Project
The Nothingness - Demo (Teo Mathlein)
The_Shadow_of_Life_Complete
Threshold
Tierra Azul
ToS2
UMFH
Unforgiven Quest
Vampyr's Kiss
VorlorN_11.exe
War Of Two Worlds (RM2k3) (MarkC)
Zephyrus (Rue669)
Bright Blue Skies.exe
~RSymphony1.1
ZeldaSE
Here is the Non-English games list:
O Segredo do Espirito
Endless Souls
asgard_tale
A Conta: Herói + Princesa + Vilão = RPG
O Artefato
faeruns_knight
crossbone
aldaran
castlevania_sonata_in_red
portal__ato_i_o_herdeiro_de_gakrop
hearts_and_soul
taut
final_fantasy_the_phoenix_prophecies
soldiers_quest
the_burning_grail
grave_spirit
island_sky
Drake Legend: The River of the Dragons
Dragon Ball GT: O Retorno do Inferno
perdidos_no_tempo
perdidos_no_tempo_2_
Dragon Quest
chrono_shift
A Espada Flamejante
A-Lenda-De-Kaiser V1.1
A Conta 2: Gestroncio Saga
Acsiosa - Demo 1.1
Adelso
Adventure
Altematch
Cavaleiros do Zodiaco: Asgard
DBZ: Batalha Final
destino_final-ouro
EDD
Fifth Era - Fragments of the Holy Stone
For The Planet V1.0
Kadji
O Legado Da Escuridao
Lendania
Librium
O Guerreiro da Luz
Overpower
O Artefato
Pedras do Destino
Las Aventurietas del Robercleiton TURBO (3 distinct versions)
Rygar e os cavaleiros do Rei
Rygar 2
Rygar 3 - Rygar no Reino Perdido
Samurai X
School of the Dead
talesbr
Tenchi Muyo
Theory of the Order - Enhanced Edition
Dragon Ball Z: A vingança da Raça Tsufuru-jin
Turno
A Última Dama de Fogo
Vampiros
Hope it helps. :)
The games are separated by two directories, one has English games and the other one has the Non-English games. There is also two lists, one for each of these directories. I also added some tags for the games in these lists hoping it would help finding certain games.
I decided I`ll also upload (hopefully sooner than later) some videos describing those discs I mentioned before aswell as some of its games.
Here is the English games list:
10000Bulletz
Abstract Paroxysm
ACBS_Deluxe
ACU_Shattered_Hearts
Amarok
Angels of Exodus
AquariusV0.105
Aurora Wing
Bakuenryu
Balmung
Beloved Rapture Demo v3.0 (Blindmind)
Bionic Plague
Black Fantasy
Blind Justice-Demo.exe
Blood Reign
Brothers
CG2
Chain Game 2
Chain Game 3
Chain Game 4
ChainOfRetribution_8
CMilBattleDemo
DawnofDarkness-bySolik
Dementia_Praecox
Densetsu Redone
demonlegacyDEMO
Destruction Of The Planet (RM2k)
DeusCard
Divinity Fatum.exe
dodln (DawnofDarkness-Legends)
Double Trouble 2 (Vindication Demo by LockeZ?)
DragonFull
Dragoon Legends Part One
EmbricDELUXE_2.2.2
Embric_of_Wulfhammers_Castle_1.2.2
Endless_Idiocy
Epoch1
epoch2
FatalDemo
Fate_of_an_Angel
FinalFallacyDoS
Final_Frontier
Gate2 (A gate into eternity)
Gates of Evocation (FIXED)
Guile Machination
Hunter_s_Joy
Ib105
Illumina
Initial_Fantasy_v2.0
Jang
JQ (Jennifer's Quest)
JQ2 (Jennifer's Quest 2)
Karma
Knights of Eden
Last Scenario v122
Lazo's Trip
Legend Quest
Legend Unabridged 1 (Brasington Lane)
Legend Unabridged 2 (Brasington Lane)
LEGENDS
Leon Quest 0.1.1.exe
Life Of Bob
Mage's Stance
mostachsheep
Mystic Legends Demo - Possibly v4 (Skie Fortress
Nadir__s_Canon
Name_73_(v.4.0)
One Night_5.1_8.exe
Onyx
PGGDG
Phylo
Phylomortis II CBS version
Rainbow_Nightmare
RanSag
realitybreakdown
Retsu Arashi Psychic Storm
River Dreams
RM2k Survivor NYSE - Demo v3 (RM2k) (JoJoface).r
RMXP_-_Phylomortis_-_Avane
Runic Legacy
Running Water
Secondary_Fantasy
Seekers of the Sun
Silenced Breakthrough
Solar Tear
Soul's Unrest
Starless_Umbra_Dragon_Heart_PACK
suneria
Take_DownLegacy_Remix
Take_Down_-_Lambs_of_Destiny
Take_Down_GRABBAG_OF_GOODNESS_
TGSAP (Tyrant God Saga)
The Kyrent Project
The Nothingness - Demo (Teo Mathlein)
The_Shadow_of_Life_Complete
Threshold
Tierra Azul
ToS2
UMFH
Unforgiven Quest
Vampyr's Kiss
VorlorN_11.exe
War Of Two Worlds (RM2k3) (MarkC)
Zephyrus (Rue669)
Bright Blue Skies.exe
~RSymphony1.1
ZeldaSE
Here is the Non-English games list:
O Segredo do Espirito
Endless Souls
asgard_tale
A Conta: Herói + Princesa + Vilão = RPG
O Artefato
faeruns_knight
crossbone
aldaran
castlevania_sonata_in_red
portal__ato_i_o_herdeiro_de_gakrop
hearts_and_soul
taut
final_fantasy_the_phoenix_prophecies
soldiers_quest
the_burning_grail
grave_spirit
island_sky
Drake Legend: The River of the Dragons
Dragon Ball GT: O Retorno do Inferno
perdidos_no_tempo
perdidos_no_tempo_2_
Dragon Quest
chrono_shift
A Espada Flamejante
A-Lenda-De-Kaiser V1.1
A Conta 2: Gestroncio Saga
Acsiosa - Demo 1.1
Adelso
Adventure
Altematch
Cavaleiros do Zodiaco: Asgard
DBZ: Batalha Final
destino_final-ouro
EDD
Fifth Era - Fragments of the Holy Stone
For The Planet V1.0
Kadji
O Legado Da Escuridao
Lendania
Librium
O Guerreiro da Luz
Overpower
O Artefato
Pedras do Destino
Las Aventurietas del Robercleiton TURBO (3 distinct versions)
Rygar e os cavaleiros do Rei
Rygar 2
Rygar 3 - Rygar no Reino Perdido
Samurai X
School of the Dead
talesbr
Tenchi Muyo
Theory of the Order - Enhanced Edition
Dragon Ball Z: A vingança da Raça Tsufuru-jin
Turno
A Última Dama de Fogo
Vampiros
Hope it helps. :)
Old/Lost RpgMaker Games - SegNin's Rare/Obscure RM Games Request Topic
author=KyleLascar
I'm asking here as a last resort: Did anyone play/complete Utopian Chaos? I could really use some help with regard to the obscure puzzles.
Well, from what I remember I did finish Utopian Chaos, but I don't remember much about the puzzles. Perhaps someone else has a walkthrough/Let's Play on Utopian Chaos.
If I find anything related I'll send a message to you.
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