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author=Shadowtext link=topic=2759.msg52022#msg52022 date=1230000534author=aprilschild link=topic=2759.msg52018#msg52018 date=1229999888Intangible, non-verbal communication is a lot harder to fake than people think, and once you really learn to read another person's body language, vocal tones, and mannerisms, it's very difficult for them to pretend they're not feeling a particular emotion, even if they can lie to you about facts.author=harmonic link=topic=2759.msg51960#msg51960 date=1229988252words
One last thing about offline... it's easy to see peoples' intentions and hidden agendas based on their body language, and speech mannerisms.
That often comes down to knowing the individual, but there's a certain degree of intuitive empathy that works even on strangers, and it's mostly just a knack.
In my experience, you can generally tell when someone's being bitchy to you, even if their words make them sound sincere. At least in real life. Online....it's tough enough to tell when someone's joking (something that has plagued me for a while, since people have a habit of taking things I type ironically at face value), much less if they're just baiting you into making an ass of yourself.
So you guys are telling me you've never had the wool pulled over your eyes IRL? You guys must be pretty good at reading people :P or you don't hang out with girls enough.
Honestly, if you look around you, the art of deception is practiced constantly. Very rarely does anyone wear their hearts on their sleeves. Go out and hang with your in-laws, for example. I bet you anything, even if you loathe them, you're saying "please," "thank you," and acting polite. How about your boss? If we were all wise to the way people really felt about us, the world would be a lot different than it is.
Yeah, sometimes you can tell how people really feel. But a lot of the time you can't. I'm guilty of it too... there's one girl I can name who I have nothing but disrespect for and she's none the wiser... I make sure of that. Tell me there's no one in your life you treat nicely that you hate, and I'll be very surprised.
Internet persona vs "Real life" persona
author=harmonic link=topic=2759.msg51960#msg51960 date=1229988252
One last thing about offline... it's easy to see peoples' intentions and hidden agendas based on their body language, and speech mannerisms.
I very much disagree with this, being a girl. I've seen and felt the deviousness of women throughout my entire life, which is part of why they make me so uneasy - it's completely impossible to tell what they really feel. Most times, in girls at least (women are hopefully but not necessarily more mature), you'll get a cheery smile, even a hug, sometimes an "Oh my gosh I love you!" when really they're secretly ruining your whole life/stealing your boyfriend/telling everyone nasty secrets about you.
Men can be equally devious if they please... I feel that they have less necessity for deviousness due to the evolution of men and women since ancient times (while a man in Rome could generally kill another man outright without much repercussion, or show obvious signs of ambition, women had to resort to devious maneuvering and poisoning because outright ambition was not acceptable), but I've seen my fair share of guys who lie. Just not as many as girls.
Any good liar has it in them... just look at sociopaths. They're always "nice," "charming," and socially perfect. Inside, they have the makings of serial killers.
But I prefer rl to ol because if you do something nasty IRL, you have a face and must be accountable for your nastiness. Online, there is no accountability, which gives a perfect outlet for people who like to be cruel (which most humans have a tendency to be). Also, if you're harassed/bullied irl, people take it seriously... whereas, online, people are more likely to say "oh, it's only the internet" even if it is just as (or more) hurtful.
I try to be the same person online as I am IRL, which is difficult, because I'm not on the same wavelength as other people who like to harass others "4 teh lulz."
[Demo] Everything Turns Gray - First Real Demo! & [Short Game] Vermicide
As the betatester for EtG, I've already give Max my buttload of issues in terms of this game. But I have a few blatant disagreements with Griever's review.
Which class were you playing? I know that I was able to survive without healing after every battle with every class. Also, when you're playing a Protector, the battles can be too easy. I didn't have a problem with battle difficulty until I was playing a mechanique (those guys need to be better), and even then, my first mechanique survived just fine whereas my second could not win a battle to save her life. Thematically though, I don't have a huge issue with the monster difficulty, especially when dying is such a huge part of the game's theme.
Play more tabletop RPGs. Then you will realise the evil that is die luck.
Maybe I'm a masochist, but I also kind of enjoyed this as well. I felt the desperation aspect of the game was enhanced by the absence of necessities. If we had what we needed all the time, it wouldn't be a scavenging game, which is really what EtG is at its heart. I like the random chests because sometimes you can get screwed, sometimes you can get lucky, and none of the loot is stuff you wouldn't find in a chest. Also, some chests are random-but-not-quite - the gun chest always spawns guns, and the drug store always has medical items. I think if there was more water and food dropped, it would be far too easy.
Jeez, you're heartless! I was so sad for the old man, and I didn't feel his story boring at all. Actually, I feel every character was well characterized, even if they're kind of jerks (like Reese). They have distinct personalities and that's okay with me.
In any case, I was first confused that there was a rating for characters. The main one is up to you, and s/he has plenty of different characterization to choose from. Maybe that's just an example of how I play - I kind of like being a loner, so I was more focused on my own pcs than any NPCs.
Also the story can't really be judged because it's so much up to the player. Unlike most RPGs where you're railroaded along a set storyline (don't get me wrong, I like those too), EtG is open-world and thus, the story (or lack of) is up to the player. There is a main story, which I do find intriguing, but I honestly don't think that EtG can be compared "story-wise" to more traditional RPGs. Then again, I could be wrong.
My main issue with the game is the giant gap in playability between Protector and Mechanique. Outlaw and Volta are quite balanced (Outlaw is my favorite class because of stealth mode), but Protector can be too easy with the right gear and mechanique is just too hard starting out.
Other than that, I am quite fond of this game, if only because I'm addicted to character creation and very into the scavenging, survive-against-all-odds tone to the piece.
- Turn the monster difficulty down. Having strategic battles is one thing, but knowing that almost any battle can kill you quite easily is another. Having to heal after pretty much every battle removes the need to think about conserving healing items as you know you have to use them or die in the next fight. Basically, having overly difficult battles is actually detracting from the gameplay. Try and aim your battles at worrying people, but only enough so that they think about healing and have to balance those thoughts out with item conservation.
Which class were you playing? I know that I was able to survive without healing after every battle with every class. Also, when you're playing a Protector, the battles can be too easy. I didn't have a problem with battle difficulty until I was playing a mechanique (those guys need to be better), and even then, my first mechanique survived just fine whereas my second could not win a battle to save her life. Thematically though, I don't have a huge issue with the monster difficulty, especially when dying is such a huge part of the game's theme.
- Lock picking/computer hacking is far too random. For instance, I got past one door only to die soon after so had to go back to lock pick the door again; the first time it went straight down, the second time it took 3 lock picks.
Play more tabletop RPGs. Then you will realise the evil that is die luck.
- Add more lock picks. I never seemed to have enough, and after a while found myself saving/loading until I got the door/chest in one go. Having more lock picks around would've solved this (some people won't care, I consider doing this cheating the game's systems…)
- No random chests. They don't make sense if the chests represent things left behind by other survivors of “the burning timesâ€.
- More food/water. There simply wasn't enough around to survive on. I died more times due to fatigue/exhaustion than I did from fighting.
Maybe I'm a masochist, but I also kind of enjoyed this as well. I felt the desperation aspect of the game was enhanced by the absence of necessities. If we had what we needed all the time, it wouldn't be a scavenging game, which is really what EtG is at its heart. I like the random chests because sometimes you can get screwed, sometimes you can get lucky, and none of the loot is stuff you wouldn't find in a chest. Also, some chests are random-but-not-quite - the gun chest always spawns guns, and the drug store always has medical items. I think if there was more water and food dropped, it would be far too easy.
The old man under the bridge was kind of interesting, but with so many buildings around why wasn't he in one of those? His story didn't give enough of a good reason to be out in the cold, cold that would've killed the hero after a few days sitting there. And why is his story so damn boooooring (it certainly made me want to bash his skull in and take all his items!)
Jeez, you're heartless! I was so sad for the old man, and I didn't feel his story boring at all. Actually, I feel every character was well characterized, even if they're kind of jerks (like Reese). They have distinct personalities and that's okay with me.
In any case, I was first confused that there was a rating for characters. The main one is up to you, and s/he has plenty of different characterization to choose from. Maybe that's just an example of how I play - I kind of like being a loner, so I was more focused on my own pcs than any NPCs.
Also the story can't really be judged because it's so much up to the player. Unlike most RPGs where you're railroaded along a set storyline (don't get me wrong, I like those too), EtG is open-world and thus, the story (or lack of) is up to the player. There is a main story, which I do find intriguing, but I honestly don't think that EtG can be compared "story-wise" to more traditional RPGs. Then again, I could be wrong.
My main issue with the game is the giant gap in playability between Protector and Mechanique. Outlaw and Volta are quite balanced (Outlaw is my favorite class because of stealth mode), but Protector can be too easy with the right gear and mechanique is just too hard starting out.
Other than that, I am quite fond of this game, if only because I'm addicted to character creation and very into the scavenging, survive-against-all-odds tone to the piece.
Release Something! V - Discussion Thread
Going to play some of these after my second favorite football team is done getting slaughtered (right after my first favorite suffered the worst embarrassment known to man...) : ( : (
This used to be a lengthy response but it has now been moved elsewhere.
This used to be a lengthy response but it has now been moved elsewhere.
Iron Gaia: Virus
[Demo] Everything Turns Gray - First Real Demo! & [Short Game] Vermicide
What sport do you play?
author=demondestiny link=topic=2724.msg51397#msg51397 date=1229774717author=aprilschild link=topic=2724.msg51383#msg51383 date=1229760636
I play(ed) cricket, softball, and volleyball.
Now, I just do scottish highland dancing, which is something like this.
lol that looks even more awesome. I may get my girlfriend starting this.
Boys can (and should) do it too. They were the ones who originally did it in Scotland, but like anything, the wars caused a dearth of men, so women began to do it in their absence. But if you notice, lady highland dancers often wear "drag" (what they're wearing in that video) to emulate the male warriors who used to do those dances.
It's also very tough to do. :D
Tell us about where you live.
White Plains, NY
This is where I go to school. It is basically a soulless demon city where rich businessmen live who want to commute to NYC but don't want to live there. It has about a thousand malls and none of the character of the rest of "upstate New York," which it is termed to be a part of despite being in the southern 16th of the state. It is not nearly as charming as Harrison and Rye, which are within 15 minutes of this pseudo-city. Yonkers is also nearby.
I much prefer the entire rest of the state of New York to this place, especially up near Putnam County.
Littleton, CO
My hometown. I love it here. Colorado is famous for snow, mountains, prospectors, and Matt and Trey. Littleton is unfortunately famous for Columbine, a high school which I live within walking distance of. Denver is getting to be a pretty sprawling metropolis, and has one of the largest theater complexes in the country (obviously dwarfed by New York's theater district).
Colorado, being nearly in the middle of the country (despite its being a WESTERN state, not mid or south-western), gets access to almost every food chain across the country. This means we get not only Fuddruckers and Red Robin but also Breuggers Bagels and other Eastern companies. We are also home to the best restaurant ever, Noodles and Co, which features noodles of every nationality (from the best Mac and Cheese ever to Stroganoff to thai noodles to spaghetti). We also eat buffalo which is really awesome.
Coloradans like to shoot rifles or be hippies. You can basically fit Coloradans into those two very broad categories. Sometimes they overlap. Also, we are seasonally overrun with Californians who love to ski.
Colorado is geek-friendly, especially Littleton. There are about 10 comic book/tabletop gaming stores within easy distance of me, and I don't know how many video game stores.
This state is a desert and also a mile above sealevel, which makes it hard for visitors to come up without getting sick/dehydrated. Also it's hilarious to watch people from the coasts try to drink booze here (most can only drink about half what they usually do back home due to the altitude).
The mountains are West of Denver, which makes it easy to tell what direction you're heading. In the year 2008, we hosted the Worldcon Science Fiction Con (and the Hugo awards), as well as the Democratic National Convention. The music groups Flobots, 3Oh!3, and The Fray are from here.
This is where I go to school. It is basically a soulless demon city where rich businessmen live who want to commute to NYC but don't want to live there. It has about a thousand malls and none of the character of the rest of "upstate New York," which it is termed to be a part of despite being in the southern 16th of the state. It is not nearly as charming as Harrison and Rye, which are within 15 minutes of this pseudo-city. Yonkers is also nearby.
I much prefer the entire rest of the state of New York to this place, especially up near Putnam County.
Littleton, CO
My hometown. I love it here. Colorado is famous for snow, mountains, prospectors, and Matt and Trey. Littleton is unfortunately famous for Columbine, a high school which I live within walking distance of. Denver is getting to be a pretty sprawling metropolis, and has one of the largest theater complexes in the country (obviously dwarfed by New York's theater district).
Colorado, being nearly in the middle of the country (despite its being a WESTERN state, not mid or south-western), gets access to almost every food chain across the country. This means we get not only Fuddruckers and Red Robin but also Breuggers Bagels and other Eastern companies. We are also home to the best restaurant ever, Noodles and Co, which features noodles of every nationality (from the best Mac and Cheese ever to Stroganoff to thai noodles to spaghetti). We also eat buffalo which is really awesome.
Coloradans like to shoot rifles or be hippies. You can basically fit Coloradans into those two very broad categories. Sometimes they overlap. Also, we are seasonally overrun with Californians who love to ski.
Colorado is geek-friendly, especially Littleton. There are about 10 comic book/tabletop gaming stores within easy distance of me, and I don't know how many video game stores.
This state is a desert and also a mile above sealevel, which makes it hard for visitors to come up without getting sick/dehydrated. Also it's hilarious to watch people from the coasts try to drink booze here (most can only drink about half what they usually do back home due to the altitude).
The mountains are West of Denver, which makes it easy to tell what direction you're heading. In the year 2008, we hosted the Worldcon Science Fiction Con (and the Hugo awards), as well as the Democratic National Convention. The music groups Flobots, 3Oh!3, and The Fray are from here.
What sport do you play?
author=iamnot link=topic=2724.msg51377#msg51377 date=1229748615author=waytogo24 link=topic=2724.msg51363#msg51363 date=1229739780
is that just wikipedia crap or is it real?
It is as real as it sounds fake. Just check out the video.
Lol, this is awesome.
What sport do you play?
I play(ed) cricket, softball, and volleyball.
Now, I just do scottish highland dancing, which is something like this.
Now, I just do scottish highland dancing, which is something like this.













