UBON'S PROFILE

that's 'they', SnowOwl. if you really want to pretend you didn't come here with hate in your heart, not purposely misgendering people would be a good start.

another good exercise in plausible deniability would be not to claim innocence in response to a post that doesn't actually ever mention you by name, but by behaviour, but lmao

author=NeverSilent
I agree that SnowOwl's way of discussing things seems unnecessarily polarising and spiteful and not very helpful to me. But it's also true that emmych based part of her argument on the idea that games like Luxaren Allure get a lot of backlash for their themes, which then turned out to be inaccurate at best. I don't think the conclusions SnowOwl drew from that are correct, but the pure fact is not as irrelevant as you make it sound.

refer to penta's post; they outline it better than I could. suffice it to say that discussion is impossible while people are harrying the people involved with increasingly loud and narrow demands to prove that the discrimination they've seen actually happened. someone whose only involvement in this kind of discussion is to try and disprove accounts of bigotry cannot claim neutrality, and you cannot have a discussion of social issues with all logic and no context.

author=NeverSilent
With pleasure. Care to elaborate?

part one: listen to people, and recognize that your own perspective is not impartial
part two: repeat

who on earth convinced people that a pedantic tangent where you hunt through a person's game page to accuse them of 'playing the victim' is okay? you throw nonsense in someone's face and then act like you've won a moral victory when you eventually shout them out of the conversation altogether

that is unacceptable by any standard and I am ashamed to be a part of the same forum as this

e: also it's the easiest thing in the world to say you're against discrimination! focus less on shouting 'I'm on your side' and more on truly putting that into practice thru self-reflection and awareness of the circumstances

I mean most of my favourite crows have probably been ravens, but it feels like I'm trying to be edgy if I say that I really like ravens y'know

but yeah corvids in general are wonderful birds + there are always loads of them around. magpies are probably my favourite just because like

look at this chatty lil friend

that's basically the root of it, yeah. understanding that your experiences colour how you see the world, that other people have their own circumstances shaping things for them, and having enough respect for them to listen.

as for the topic of representation, I also feel it's important to emphasize that the relative non-existence of marginalized groups in fiction is something that needs to be addressed on its own, but is also partly a symptom of how little support marginalized authors and devs often find in these fields. please consider supporting actual people of those backgrounds as well, because we're still dealing with an industry where any middle-aged white guy can be called a 'visionary' for doing virtually anything, while other groups have to put in a great deal more work for less recognition.