SOOO... GAMERGATE

So what's your proposed method of stopped trolls from creating a twitter and tweeting under the hashtag? What do you propose to stop them from freely posting on an anonymous image board?

All the proponents can do is call it out and report what they can



Its not my job to figure it out for you. Though you can start by ceasing with the excuses.

The Escapist's chance in ethical code comes to mind. Furthermore, it's kinda hard to change things that are set so rigidly against doing so and would rather burn in the flames of hell over budging.

Frankly, I'm willing to bet that if any of the accused sites simply posted some sort of ethics code or, at the least, said "we'll conduct an internal investigation" then it'd be nowhere near the level of hell it is today.

Note that all of the examples of accomplishments Gamargate can point occurred at the beginning of the movement, when the facts about it were still unclear.

And more to the point, it wouldn't have worked because Gamergate doesn't actually care about ethics.

Problem comes when mainstream media continually demonizes things with a bunch of one-sided articles.

The mainstream media has absolutely nothing to gain from misrepresenting gamergate. Most of it is below the medias concern its not just unreliable sites running articles that don't paint Gamergate in a good light. We're talking about BBC or NPR. When it comes to pro gamergate articles, what do you get? Milo from Breitbart. Do I really need to explain to you what this tells you about the movement.

The media isn't reporting gamergate the way it is out of some conspiracy. Its because it looks like a harassment campaign to anyone on the outside.

author=Max McGee

author=EdgeOfChaos

author=harmonic
I agree that it's no one's business. The side effect is that it made me feel really shitty because I have to rely on the merits of my game design skills rather than my sexual relationships to get good reviews.

Man, I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but as I said previously, none of the people she slept with posted a review.

Yeah, by reasonable accounts, Zoe Quinn is a horribly repellent, fucked up bitch in any number of ways. But the one wrong thing she almost definitely DIDN'T do is to sex her way into positive game coverage. The initial accusation--which was actually never explicitly spoken, just indirectly implied and then quickly backed off from by her ex-boyfriend, who later clarified that he was making the point that she was a disgustingly awful person and a manipulative self-obsessed liar, NOT that she had somehow sexed her way into positive game coverage--was completely false in a "laughable on the face of it" kind of way.

But in the internet firestorm that subsequently touched off, it is true that:

a) Social Justice Warriors publicly despise and vilify "white" "straight" "male" "gamers".
b) This has touched off a digital pogrom against gamers in the mainstream media, largely due to a few vile trolls that have really poisoned the well for the entire movement with their never-acceptable threats of death and rape.
c) Anita Sarkeesian is clearly the Jack Thompson of 2014, whatever else she may profess. And like I felt about Jack Thompson, I want to punch her in her goddamn face until she stops appearing on legitimate network news as a "qualified expert" talking about things she obviously doesn't understand and spreading a hate-filled, vile agenda full of fucking lies.

also

d) Ethics in games journalism remain, broadly speaking a joke and obvious, unspoken conflicts of interest where money changes hands are plentiful. But this actually has fuck all to do with Zoe Quinn, who as an indie dev is completely powerless in the industry and is anything but an industry inside. And it has also been true for years and years.

tl;dr the ongoing backlash against GamerGate, which is folded into the larger heading of GamerGate, is a much bigger deal than the original misinformed movement itself.

>out of curiosity, how many people here know of TFYC's story?

My girlfriend brought up The Fine Young Capitalists to me the other day (in vague terms, she couldn't remember them by name). Details are extremely vague, but I know that they are a feminist group that was organizing a game jam and that before #GG broke that Zoe Quinn publicly attacked them for (allegedly and ostensibly) being trans-exclusionary and not paying the participants, and that she was almost able to bury their entire endeavor, but they later recovered. Anyway since #GG I haven't been able to find any more details than that, but it seems like they were later able to recover and their Game Jam was quite successful.

author=GreatRedSpirit
Was linked this:
Thoroughly enjoyed

Due to a massive donation run from the supporters of GG. I believe the jam was also the reason the Vivian James character exists today

author=Zeigfried_McBacon

author=Corfaisus

author=Zeigfried_McBacon
Until Anti-GG can openly cast off social justice bullshit and the various people who claim to care about women but actually don't, not mention the other various hoodlums causing issues for everyone involved, all it will end up doing is fueling pro-GG.

GamerGate: "Nobody truly cares about women. Everybody's lying. It's all a misandrist attempt to take away my video game rape/woman-beating/big-boob-jiggling! How dare they take these things away from ME!"

I do hope this is just a lil fun sarcasm on your part and not some shitty attempt at personally attacking me, seeing as I tend to give slight preferential treatment to women.

author=Corfaisus

author=Zeigfried_McBacon

author=Corfaisus

author=Zeigfried_McBacon
Until Anti-GG can openly cast off social justice bullshit and the various people who claim to care about women but actually don't, not mention the other various hoodlums causing issues for everyone involved, all it will end up doing is fueling pro-GG.

GamerGate: "Nobody truly cares about women. Everybody's lying. It's all a misandrist attempt to take away my video game rape/woman-beating/big-boob-jiggling! How dare they take these things away from ME!"

I do hope this is just a lil fun sarcasm on your part and not some shitty attempt at personally attacking me, seeing as I tend to give slight preferential treatment to women.

Actually it's neither. What I posted was a criticism directed at the undeniable foundation of GamerGate that you've presented before me; that no one else truly cares and they just want to look good. If you were doing no such thing, then there truly was no reason to respond in such.

You can become part of the problem, though. You know, if you want this to be about you.