MAFIA GUIDE; HOSTING, SUGGESTIONS, AND DISCUSSION

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LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Why the fuck not? If you drop out, you've proven you're a risk case. It's better to remove all the risk cases.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
6309
Xoe is a 7 time offender? That's more than a fair shake. Sometimes I admittedly sign up when I can't play, but I've tried to cut back substantially, to the point that I make sure I have availability for the game in some capacity.
Like LockeZ etc says, it's not fair to everyone else. The people making these games balance the game mechanics before tossing it out there. It's not willy nilly. So, #alllivesmatter (sorryiamashamed)
Zeigfried_McBacon
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
3820
author=LockeZ
Why the fuck not? If you drop out, you've proven you're a risk case. It's better to remove all the risk cases.


BYE.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
LockeZ
Why the fuck not? If you drop out, you've proven you're a risk case. It's better to remove all the risk cases.


Well, it does happen from time to time, and eventually everyone has something come up. Liberty had to drop out of the current McBacon Jam, and she's not the unreliable sort. Cases like XoeisCool is definitely something that applies here, but as for most, everyone fucks up. All I'm saying is, for the love of whatever god you worship, give people some notice, if you can, for fuck's sake.
Kloe
I lost my arms in a tragic chibi accident
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author=pianotm
LockeZ
Why the fuck not? If you drop out, you've proven you're a risk case. It's better to remove all the risk cases.
Well, it does happen from time to time, and eventually everyone has something come up. Liberty had to drop out of the current McBacon Jam, and she's not the unreliable sort. Cases like XoeisCool is definitely something that applies here, but as for most, everyone fucks up. All I'm saying is, for the love of whatever god you worship, give people some notice, if you can, for fuck's sake.
Yup, this.

If someone has to drop out, and they say "I'm so sorry but I have to drop out because X" then it's not their fault. There are reasons that people can't controll and bans for that aren't right. If they give notice, I think it's fine to drop out if they have to!
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
imo the three strikes rule is generous enough for me. if you've had to have been modkilled due to inactivity three times, you're gooooneee. sometimes stuff crops up, and not every new player 'gets' how bad inactivity can be

it sucks 2 get blacklisted, but it doesn't suck as much as it does for everyone else playing when you sign up and dont post. obviously real life stuff comes up, but if you know you won't have time to play, don't sign up, and if something comes up, just give some heads up, since the mod does have the ability to replace people.
if you've got so much rl stuff coming up that you have to get modkilled 7 times then you must live in Syria or something


author=LockeZ
Why the fuck not? If you drop out, you've proven you're a risk case. It's better to remove all the risk cases.


because shit happens irl and then we wouldnt have any players. not here, but on another forum I've had to drop out before. given enough time, everyone here would eventually have to drop out of a game.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Three strikes and you're out does seem like a very reasonable method. It doesn't tell new players quite as clearly that what they did isn't acceptable in the future. But it also doesn't drive them away.
Kloe
I lost my arms in a tragic chibi accident
2236
Woooo, Puppy the voice of reason, I agree
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
3229
Agree with the three strikes rule.

Yes, people can get busy/get burdened with whatever stuff, but in cases like that you can just avoid playing in the first place (like I did for LockeZ's game).
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
I think a good rule for determining 'inactivity' is just

Q: Do you have less game-related posts than the mod at the end of a dayphase? (I specify game-related because the mod is gonna have a bunch of setup posts or w/e) If you do, then there's a problem.

This is kind of a self-regulating rule, in that the number of posts the mod has to make counting votes and such is going to be mostly determined by the overall activity of the game. The mod will (in theory) have to post more if there're a lot of votes being thrown around, so the minimal hurdle you have to jump over is determined by active the other players in the game are.

or maybe not. either way, I think the small amount of posts a mod has to make is not difficult to match and not an unreasonable demand to make.
Blobofgoo
Legs are a burden. Return to snek.
2751
These are dark times for the Real Mafia Network
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
3229
Mafia has changed.
Seiromem
I would have more makerscore If I did things.
6375
Mafia never changes.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
I think a good rule for determining 'inactivity' is just

Q: Do you have less game-related posts than the mod at the end of a dayphase? (I specify game-related because the mod is gonna have a bunch of setup posts or w/e) If you do, then there's a problem.

This is kind of a self-regulating rule, in that the number of posts the mod has to make counting votes and such is going to be mostly determined by the overall activity of the game. The mod will (in theory) have to post more if there're a lot of votes being thrown around, so the minimal hurdle you have to jump over is determined by active the other players in the game are.

or maybe not. either way, I think the small amount of posts a mod has to make is not difficult to match and not an unreasonable demand to make.

There are cases of people being quiet the first day or two due to irl (though they post, just not much) who then are a burst of activity when the suddenly-arisen issue was resolved, and it made it more interesting because they suddenly threw themselves into the game creating a discrepency between their past posts and current posts.

Then again, I've played a game as mafia (on another site) where my partner was EMT and never there. It wasn't his fault but it was so fucking annoying trying to work out any plans when he was completely out of it. It's not just the host who gets fucked over in that aspect, especially when the player has speciality roles where they have to work in a team (mafia, third party, miller, lovers).

It's understandable that being in a highly-demanding work like that you'd have little time for playing games, and I will give him credit for trying but he probably should have dropped out when the first triple shift happened, if only so I'd have known that I was on my own and planned accordingly. And so that the blow-up he had at me for pressuring him about his head being in the noose wouldn't have happened. :/

Then again, I've been the one with my internet cut out in the middle of an interesting game before - shit does happen when you don't expect it and you can't help that sometimes. If you know that something is going down in your life you can at least let people know, but stuff that comes out of the blue shouldn't get you banned.

So yeah, the three-strikes rule is fine, I think. Three strikes = no playing mafia for a month or two. Or maybe just no-x-games.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
6309
http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/Total_Rickall

Okay, this needs to be a Mafia game. Maybe I'll work on it when FF Mafia is over and another is running. I'd love to do the flavour for it.

Basically: Town is the imaginary parasites trying to get you to remember that they're real, and Mafia is the family, trying to survive. Mafia are massively outnumbered but have bad memories of each other. The Imaginary parasites are themselves unsure of their own reality, and as such don't know who the Host family are. By killing the family (mafia), they can break free from the house they're caged in and infect the planet.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
sign me up to host a game after whoever's last in line. also if anyone wants a co-mod for their game/someone to work on the setup, i'll hop on.
Also, in general, can we set like a cooldown time between games? I mean I'm obviously going to jump in if I can regardless of timing, but I don't think everyone's like that, and I'd rather play 1 game with 15 active players than 2 games with 12 players (with two lurkers and a modkill).
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
Though, I would like some feedback to the Mafia game I suggested.

Infiltrator Mafia.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
author=oddRABBIT
Seeing that I have no urge, or reason to run a Mafia game myself, here's an idea.

Infiltrator Mafia.



the nightkill's only use is for killing the cop, since the "mafia" (as in, the infiltrators) win by surviving and not by eliminating town. But since they can only do this once, the cop can claim d1 and will never be able to be lynched or killed, since the bodyguard can protect them indefinitely and town isn't going to lynch confirmed town. I would remove the bodyguard. that way, there is an actual use for the nightkill role and a reason for the cop role to not claim immediately.

the charismatic liar role is cool. other than the bodyguard, only thing that would possibly need modification imo would be fiddling with numbers, depending on how many people sign up.
For the record, mine will require a little work by the players before it starts (it's basically creating a character based on the world - I'll explain in the thread when it's time, and will post that some time after the current game starts, so there's not too much waiting).