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CloseHrm. It might not be a bad idea to reassess the site's stance of commercial games being unable to receive Misaos. The fact that games would need to have a free download, if it has a download at all, would probably still be a general rule of thumb to have.
Dyhalto
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Nah. Allowing commercial games to compete in the Misaos is a bad idea all around.
The big reason being that as commercial deving expands and more money is invested into production value, commercial quality will eventually dwarf anything a lone gamedev could ever achieve with RTP, rips, and even homemade stuff.
Misaos are something for the startup and the freeware indie to aspire to, and should be left that way because there isn't much else for them.
Tuomo_L will just have to content himself with his ceiling-high fat stacks of cash.
The big reason being that as commercial deving expands and more money is invested into production value, commercial quality will eventually dwarf anything a lone gamedev could ever achieve with RTP, rips, and even homemade stuff.
Misaos are something for the startup and the freeware indie to aspire to, and should be left that way because there isn't much else for them.
Tuomo_L will just have to content himself with his ceiling-high fat stacks of cash.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5354
I also feel like the noncommercial aspect of the misaos speaks to RMN's hobbyist status. As well as the fact that it's a silly popularity contest that means little in the grand scheme of anything.
The exception, I think, is unity's games, but that is because unity is a madwoman. She's the ringer in here. :V
author=Dyhalto
The big reason being that as commercial deving expands and more money is invested into production value, commercial quality will eventually dwarf anything a lone gamedev could ever achieve with RTP, rips, and even homemade stuff.
The exception, I think, is unity's games, but that is because unity is a madwoman. She's the ringer in here. :V
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
Right. Because assets ripped from professional level games were never commercial quality. And freeware devs never commission professionals to create commercial quality assets.
Dyhalto, don't act like you know Tuomo_L's financial situation. If you want to keep the Misaos strictly to freeware developers, that's perfectly legitimate on its own.
EDIT:
Tuomo_L, the reason you were told to remove the download buttons on your games was because they violated the rule stating all download links submitted through RMN must be free to play. You submitted links to your Steam pages, where the only option people had was to buy the game. You were given this explanation when you were asked to remove the links.
Dyhalto, don't act like you know Tuomo_L's financial situation. If you want to keep the Misaos strictly to freeware developers, that's perfectly legitimate on its own.
EDIT:
Tuomo_L, the reason you were told to remove the download buttons on your games was because they violated the rule stating all download links submitted through RMN must be free to play. You submitted links to your Steam pages, where the only option people had was to buy the game. You were given this explanation when you were asked to remove the links.
Dyhalto
7536
Is it really so far-fetched to suggest that, in the future, Tuomo_L Studio or Stegosoft Games may actually succeed in a meaningful way and employ a full-time staff dedicated to producing high quality games?
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5354
I mean, given the state of video games as a market...
Darken
3952
author=Dyhalto
Is it really so far-fetched to suggest that, in the future, Tuomo_L Studio or Stegosoft Games may actually succeed in a meaningful way and employ a full-time staff dedicated to producing high quality games?
Weren't you saying that RM indies pursuing commercial is a dead end and that no one should bother with?
author=DyhaltoI mean, he offered to help fund HR's remaster...
Is it really so far-fetched to suggest that, in the future, Tuomo_L Studio or Stegosoft Games may actually succeed in a meaningful way and employ a full-time staff dedicated to producing high quality games?
Dyhalto
7536
author=Darken
Weren't you saying that RM indies pursuing commercial is a dead end and that no one should bother with?
Yep. For every one success story, there'll be a hundred failures. Maybe even a thousand.
Darken
3952
It's interesting that the exceptions also becomes a hindrance to your envisioned freeware utopia. You just can't win I guess.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5354
author=Solitayre
Why are we still doing the Misaos
~*Tradition*~
author=Solitayre
Why are we still doing the Misaos
To see what wacky categories we come up with each year.
But if you wanna stop them here and now, I won't mind having the last Game of the Year award ever .-.
Tuomo_L
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author=Red_Nova
Tuomo_L, the reason you were told to remove the download buttons on your games was because they violated the rule stating all download links submitted through RMN must be free to play. You submitted links to your Steam pages, where the only option people had was to buy the game. You were given this explanation when you were asked to remove the links.
And I did that, but then Kory said I need to have button for that to qualify for Misaos which put me in darned if I do, darned if I don't situation.
author=Dyhalto
Is it really so far-fetched to suggest that, in the future, Tuomo_L Studio or Stegosoft Games may actually succeed in a meaningful way and employ a full-time staff dedicated to producing high quality games?
I'd like to just point out that I'm not there yet and I shouldn't be judged based on what-ifs just as you'd not judge someone based on pure speculation and presumptions.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5354
I will never understand what makes people go so apeshit about the misaos.
Sit back, relax, and mak gams. Or pla gams if that's your thing.
Debating what gams are good is also a great option.
(EDIT: I got way too rambly and yell-at-cloud-y so here's the important stuff with the chaff removed)
Sit back, relax, and mak gams. Or pla gams if that's your thing.
Debating what gams are good is also a great option.
(EDIT: I got way too rambly and yell-at-cloud-y so here's the important stuff with the chaff removed)
Housekeeping
3571
author=Solitayre
Why are we still doing the Misaos
It's about the pageantry, man. The glitz. The razzle dazzle. The who's who and the what's what. If you're not excited for all the hip celebrity dish, then I just don't know how to get through to you.
Tuomo_L: you need to have a free download like a short demo connected to RMN.
Linking to your Steam game page is not a download.
If you do this then people can review your game.
(The demo version doesn't need to be that long.)
But there's nothing wrong with having a category for best commercial game.
As long as that's the only category the game can get nominated for.
(But you sill need a demo that is free to download.)
Unfortunately I have 0 control over the categories or anything like that.
