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Closeauthor=ESBY
Let me ask you a little question. If I was scum then why would I be drawing this much attention to myself?
I'll admit you have a point. Maybe you're just being an ass to be an ass. But you're still not being very helpful...
ESBY
Let me ask you a little question. If I was scum then why would I be drawing this much attention to myself?
Oh, that's easy. A potential scumtell is avoiding drawing attention to yourself. I have previously said that logic doesn't work very well in Mafia. It's mostly a paranoia-driven game.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
um....is it false. you put a jokevote on gourd and then said, all list-makers are scum.
Hi Cathy Newman, no I did not say all list-makers are scum. You're making my posts to be a lot more than they actually were, I'm not sure why.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
at this point both of you are going to get dragged to lylo if you are town, and aren't killed soon, because you will be so, so easy to mislynch
You better start voting for me then? I don't know what else to say at this point if people constantly misread my posts.
Also, keep in mind you voted Gourd too
Yeah, so?
Okay, here's a good post.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/23722/?post=847652#post847652
What's wrong with this one?
author=pianotm
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/23722/?post=847652#post847652
You also say you explain your suspicion of Cap_H and link to the following post, but I'm either blind or can't see what you're talking about.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/23722/?post=847652#post847652
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/23722/?post=847858#post847858
As for whether or not I have info other townies don't, I actually don't. Well, I might know something but it's not much and it's not really related to you and Esby.
If you have any leads they're probably worth sharing, no?
We voted for Gourd. It's likely one of us is scum. All I'm doing is going down the line. As for not being a fan of basing our day 2 actions on day 1 actions, that's a little counter-intuitive considering it's the only thing we can scum-hunt with. If you think something different, please enlighten me.
At least we've narrowed Mafia to at least one of CAVE_DOG, piano and Muffle, because I can believe 2/3 misread my posts/claim I haven't posted anything "substantial" (??)/generally not helping. but I can't believe all three of you doing so innocently.
Yellow Magic
What's wrong with this one?
Nothing. It's a good post. Helpful. That's all I was saying. If there was anything wrong with it, I would have pointed it out.
As much as I hate to admit it, CAVE_DOG seems the least likely because they really did seem hesitant in voting for Gourd (yes, I guess I could be a play in itself, but I doubt it right now). So process of elimination leads to at least one of Muffle or Piano.
Oh! I get it, the comment that Day One lists are scummy is a dig at Cap_H.
This is meta, but I've never seen anyone say that a list is scummy. In fact, most experienced players I've encountered say that a scum-list is a good thing. In fact, not posting a scum-list on day one is one of the worst things you can do. If you die night one, other players have that list to go back to.
This is meta, but I've never seen anyone say that a list is scummy. In fact, most experienced players I've encountered say that a scum-list is a good thing. In fact, not posting a scum-list on day one is one of the worst things you can do. If you die night one, other players have that list to go back to.
We weren't hesitant because we had so many reasons to suspect him... I don't know how else to get this across to you.
I find Demonlord's claim of being targeted and his interaction with piano's claim very suspicious. First he just says he was attacked and as soon as someone else came out about having being attacked and giving more details about their flavour, he instantly added that he was attacked similarly (flavour wise of course). That would be the perfect way for scum to try and paint themselves as a target and therefore as town. If both of them were truly attacked, than that would mean that this game would have 3 nightkills plus the lynch, I can't help but see that as incredibly unlikely as that means that each night 3 people would've died (if Gourd would've been alive).
I think Demonlord is straight out lying in order to hide amongst town.
#lynch Demonlord5000
I doubt Piano lied because Demonlord could've contradicted him and tried to build a case against him. I think this pretty much confirms Piano as town, unless they are both scum and didn't target anyone this night in order to pull off their "We've both been attacked" spiel in order to paint themselves as town. Although I see the second scenario way less likely, it should not be dismissed.
I think Demonlord is straight out lying in order to hide amongst town.
#lynch Demonlord5000
I doubt Piano lied because Demonlord could've contradicted him and tried to build a case against him. I think this pretty much confirms Piano as town, unless they are both scum and didn't target anyone this night in order to pull off their "We've both been attacked" spiel in order to paint themselves as town. Although I see the second scenario way less likely, it should not be dismissed.
Yellow Magic
As much as I hate to admit it, CAVE_DOG seems the least likely because they really did seem hesitant in voting for Gourd (yes, I guess I could be a play in itself, but I doubt it right now). So process of elimination leads to at least one of Muffle or Piano.
Or you.
Th-That's basically what I said Ozzy. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I'm not going to vote yet.
Guns in the game, one gunner dead, demon corroborates me instead of contradicting me. Yet, that confirms me as town? One lynch, one night kill, one vigilante. Yet, we couldn't possibly have three night kills in a mafia game?
#Lynch OzzyTheOne
#Lynch OzzyTheOne
These decisions seem to be getting rash. Ozzy shows up for the first time today and automatically lynches Demonlord. Piano automatically lynches Ozzy for saying one thing. <.> Shouldn't we try to find some more evidence against these people?
author=pianotm
Guns in the game, one gunner dead, demon corroborates me instead of contradicting me. Yet, that confirms me as town? One lynch, one night kill, one vigilante. Yet, we couldn't possibly have three night kills in a mafia game?
#Lynch OzzyTheOne
I don't think I've ever been in a game with 3 nightkills, which would lead to 4 kills per day which I, going a little meta here, cannot believe based on my mafia experience. Either Demonlord is lying in order to paint himself town and gain your trust or both of you are lying.
Muffle
These decisions seem to be getting rash. Ozzy shows up for the first time today and automatically lynches Demonlord. Piano automatically lynches Ozzy for saying one thing. <.> Shouldn't we try to find some more evidence against these people?
Number one, it's still early in the day phase, and these are the only two votes.
Number two, there's one vote apiece and we can't lynch without six votes.
Number three, Demon claims someone tried to kill him first. I claimed second and gave more details. Demon corroborated me. Now Ozzy says my account is more credible than Demon? That doesn't strike you as slightly off?
demonlord5000
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We still have a ton of people alive at this point. Let me ask this ozzy: why would scum make such a daring gambit at this point in the game? I could see making such a gambit later in the game when there are fewer players because it would have a big payoff, but what would scum gain from making this gambit now? I'm just not seeing the reasoning on that.
author=pianotm
This is meta, but I've never seen anyone say that a list is scummy. In fact, most experienced players I've encountered say that a scum-list is a good thing. In fact, not posting a scum-list on day one is one of the worst things you can do. If you die night one, other players have that list to go back to.
I wouldn't know what most experienced players think, because I only ever play Mafia here. I personally don't find the scum-lists all that helpful if they're mostly regarding who they think is Town or unsure of. It also doesn't help if the list doesn't have any additional details beyond just names, e.g. Cap-H's.
Re: Ozzy's vote. He has a point: At first demonlord said he was attacked by a shadow and wasn't sure how he survived, the next he says he was hiding behind a stairwell. I could be reading into flavour a bit much, but, this DOES seem a bit off to me.
OzzyTheOne
I don't think I've ever been in a game with 3 nightkills, which would lead to 4 kills per day which I, going a little meta here, cannot believe based on my mafia experience. Either Demonlord is lying in order to paint himself town and gain your trust or both of you are lying.
So, my claim is the second and Demon corroborates me. You already said this makes you certain that I'm town.
OzzyTheOne
I doubt Piano lied because Demonlord could've contradicted him and tried to build a case against him. I think this pretty much confirms Piano as town, unless they are both scum and didn't target anyone this night in order to pull off their "We've both been attacked" spiel in order to paint themselves as town.
That second point would be a bad scumplay, but you're not wrong.
author=demonlord5000
We still have a ton of people alive at this point. Let me ask this ozzy: why would scum make such a daring gambit at this point in the game? I could see making such a gambit later in the game when there are fewer players because it would have a big payoff, but what would scum gain from making this gambit now? I'm just not seeing the reasoning on that.
I pointed out how they could be trying to paint themselves as town. We have no real idea how many nightkill roles there are, yes. But have you ever been in a game of 12 with 3 nightkills plus lynch? I know it's meta and some people hate that, but I can't wrap my head around it. It rubs me the wrong way too much.
Yellow Magic
Re: Ozzy's vote. He has a point: At first demonlord said he was attacked by a shadow and wasn't sure how he survived, the next he says he was hiding behind a stairwell. I could be reading into flavour a bit much, but, this DOES seem a bit off to me.
Well, I don't know how I survived either. We have two protectors in the game.
