THE SCREENSHOT TOPIC RETURNS

@Dookie: Aye, I just do a rough draft before any finishing touches, in the event that I have to change anything else before doing any curves or stuff. The lava I just fixed (I gotta remember Shift mapping works well for that part...). As for the roofs, that's how ALL of my maps looks inside (for caves really. For houses and buildings, it's pitch-black roof, but not for caves. Why? I don't know...maybe I'm massochistic and like to put extra things on top of the walls for extra flavor @_@; ).

As for the lava thingie with the different tile, I know. That's on purpose really. I could just replace it with the other lava pool since it's the same darn thing though.


@LockeZ: Hmm...I'd have to run a Parallel Event in each area for if a summoner is beaten on the map then to make sure it stays 0 Encounter, right?

@Liberty: Ho boy lol. That's a neato idea, but man would that be hellish to work with. I know some of the Touhou fangames did something KINDA like that (I think anyways...I don't remember if Genius of Sapphieros and Devil of Decline did. Though I know DoD had raising and lowering water levels with affected the maps). I wouldn't even know WHERE to begin doing that, especially seeing the list right now (which still needs trimmed). And yes, NONE of these guys are tied to the story at all and are kinda just there. Have your big FF reference dungeon, even though the entire game has had multiple references to the series! lol

Also of note, you never obtain these summons (your summoner of the game pretty much has all but 3 of the summons in the game. I feel like I could vary up/make her summons a bit more versatile but not sure how. I'd need to brainstorm skills later to rebalance them anyways), so that's why they're just random encounters right now. Originally some of them were going to be minibosses, not sure if I'll do that or not.

Well, I know that. It's the planning things out beforehand with mapping that's hellish for me lol. I am not good at planning things with maps. x_x;

@chaosvine: I'm not sure endless updates to the same area is really what the screenshot topic is for. You're showing a lot of progress, but maybe it's time to make a devoted topic for this project of yours?

The screenshot topic is basically for you to as for critique on a few images. It isn't for constant updates. Basically, if you read back through it a bit, you'll see that people post an image or two, work for a while on their game, then come back and post either an update of the area after it's been greatly changed or with something else entirely. You may see a few people come up with something, get some feedback, then come right back with a revision, but it's only once or twice to tweak something - not for the same map over and over again.

This topic is to talk about what you're working on - again, not seeking help for every little change, just a general "this is what I'm doing, does it look okay" for more than just images - tilesets, for example. The Screenshot thread is for getting critique on screens of your game, but not by asking for help with every tiny change.

Work on your project - on refining your tiles - for a few days, then report back, asking what needs changing, if something looks odd or not. Spamming up a thread with constant asks just makes people more likely to ignore your posts. Just, take a small break and focus on the project.

As for what's wring with your image, the slanted roof tiles should edge against wall, not climb the roof. It's set at the same height as the walls so it should not be 'climbing' the roof. Like so:

If you turned the house on its side you'd see those jutting out areas like the middle part = that is, straight roof above a wall. Thus, the areas under the edge of the roof would be walls, no ceiling. I really recommend you check out how Mack deals with this issue, as his tiles used peaked roofs really well.


Also, the green and red circles show odd tiling/missing tiles.
(And no, making threads for your own projects isn't allowed.)

On a sidenote .. I hate ff for making making people think Shiva is female and ice-themed. But hey :)
Although I'd say a fire spirit or winged creature of smoke of any sorts in a fire cave does not necessarily require there to be others elements

@Kylaila: Hey, just sticking with the FF side of things for this dungeon for the enemies. Blame them, not me. And no, it doesn't HAVE to be an elemental cave, but seeing as this cave is full of FF summons anyways...

@karins_soulkeeper: It's a 1/80 chance per step for an encounter. There's no overworld fights here, except with the minibosses. So it's actually not as bad as you'd think. In all honesty, I don't think it's that far of a travel myself.

Aye, I changed the random encounter rate to best fit my own maps, since they can get pretty lengthy (100x100 is generally the absolute largest I will go with any map, and that's usually only with putting multiple rooms on a single map. 50x50 or 60x60 is usually the largest otherwise). Plus, I have No Encounter Items/Abilities around as well as Double Overworld Speed passive and whatnot, so yeah...^^;;

I try to make the chests at least worthwhile, though they're often crafting materials since well...I would LIKE for my crafting system to be utilized but at this rate? Not sure if it will...

Really? That's odd...I do have it set (thanks to Locke from ages ago) that after any given fight, you will not get into another random encounter for the next 10 steps so...there's that going too. But yes, it does use the default encounter system. In all honesty though, there's been several times on my own maps that I've gone through maps and never get into a single fight on some screens, even on big maps, so...I dunno. \ o /

Ok, before I continue the design for this dungeon...should I just axe this one entirely? It is a filler dungeon after all, and I'm pretty sure it can be cut out and nothing of value is really lost (except the 2-3 days I spent working on this dungeon right now...). Of course, then I'd have to relocate the FF Summons to other areas because I still want to use them...>_<

Hm...true. It could work very well for an optional dungeon. I guess I'll keep this as the FF Reference dungeon then! I'll just move onto another dungeon in the meantime, since I don't feel like dealing with this dungeon for now. Dunno what the rewards would be at the very end (a person recommended something like a new character or something that would change something in the story later, like instead of fighting a character, they'd join your side for that battle, but that'd require me to mess with the database and with characters, which would force people who have save files to completely start over because of how 2k3 handles that and auuuugh!!!), but I would like to have the dungeon be a pretty tough dungeon overall.