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author=Ratty524I didn't say anything about diseases or dark ages. You're greatly exaggerating my posts because of your obvious bias. This is the second time in just as many pages where you don't seem to read what I write at all. If you want to argue, at least try to read what the opposition actually writes.author=SnowOwlYour main concern seems to be that it'll somehow invite a disease in the community that'll lead us towards an imagined "dark age." Guess what: there are commercial developers are in the learning stages just the same as amateur hobbyists. We're really only different in that one guy decides to make a profit off their work while another doesn't.
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I'm sure that's true for you, but I don't think that's true for everyone. It probably isn't a very good way to make money, like you say, but that doesn't stop people from trying. "I'm special, my game will be the next big thing, I'll show those noobs how it's done."
I don't think that's a overly negative way to look at it, I just think it's realistically how alot of people that get into commercial gamemaking think.
It's not that there's anything wrong with commercial games per se, I play mostly commercial games myself, it's just that I don't think they are a good fit for RMN.
Edit: It's not so much as creating a "homogenous community" as it's about what sort of community you would like to strive towards. It will never be a reality, ofcourse, but that doesn't mean you can't try. It's impossible to say that the site will always be the same. It 100% won't, because nothing stays the same, especially on something as fast-moving as the internet. But for as long as possible, I'd like RMN to be about making games for fun. I think commercial games is a step away from that.
As an aside, I find it ironic that you call making games an ordeal when one of my actual arguments was that many commercial game makers don't make games mainly for fun.
We need to talk about the fan games here after what happened to the Metroid 2 Project
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I'm sure that's true for you, but I don't think that's true for everyone. It probably isn't a very good way to make money, like you say, but that doesn't stop people from trying. "I'm special, my game will be the next big thing, I'll show those noobs how it's done."
I don't think that's a overly negative way to look at it, I just think it's realistically how alot of people that get into commercial gamemaking think.
It's not that there's anything wrong with commercial games per se, I play mostly commercial games myself, it's just that I don't think they are a good fit for RMN.
Edit: It's not so much as creating a "homogenous community" as it's about what sort of community you would like to strive towards. It will never be a reality, ofcourse, but that doesn't mean you can't try. It's impossible to say that the site will always be the same. It 100% won't, because nothing stays the same, especially on something as fast-moving as the internet. But for as long as possible, I'd like RMN to be about making games for fun. I think commercial games is a step away from that.
I'm sure that's true for you, but I don't think that's true for everyone. It probably isn't a very good way to make money, like you say, but that doesn't stop people from trying. "I'm special, my game will be the next big thing, I'll show those noobs how it's done."
I don't think that's a overly negative way to look at it, I just think it's realistically how alot of people that get into commercial gamemaking think.
It's not that there's anything wrong with commercial games per se, I play mostly commercial games myself, it's just that I don't think they are a good fit for RMN.
Edit: It's not so much as creating a "homogenous community" as it's about what sort of community you would like to strive towards. It will never be a reality, ofcourse, but that doesn't mean you can't try. It's impossible to say that the site will always be the same. It 100% won't, because nothing stays the same, especially on something as fast-moving as the internet. But for as long as possible, I'd like RMN to be about making games for fun. I think commercial games is a step away from that.
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author=Ratty524author=SnowOwlWhat does that have to do with the overall quality of the game itself? Both sides deserve to be recognized in some shape or form if they make good games (which probably won't happen soon with harmonic imo), so I find this rule on only featuring free games to be ridiculous.
There is a difference when you compare hobby games to commercial games. You can argue that commercial gamemakers still have the same amount of passion and drive that hobbyists have, and you might be right. But there is a difference. The difference is that commercial games can't do whatever they want anymore. They have to do something that sells.
Maybe that's a good thing, maybe it's not. But I like the hobbyist games, where you're not limited to what the majority of people like, and you can make something unique without caring about what other people think.
I like those sorts of games, and I like the sorts of people that make them. It's a personal opinion, but whatever.
I don't care for equality in this matter. I don't want commercial games on RMN.
It's too late since they are already here, but I can still voice my opinion on it, I suppose.
Nothing. Quality had absolutely nothing to do with anything in my post.
It's not ridicilous to not want commercial games here, because allowing them will change the type of people that come here. It will bring in people that are in it for the money, not for the fun of making games. I like it when I can discuss things I do for fun with like-minded people. People that do it as work, not fun, are not like-minded.
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There is a difference when you compare hobby games to commercial games. You can argue that commercial gamemakers still have the same amount of passion and drive that hobbyists have, and you might be right. But there is a difference. The difference is that commercial games can't do whatever they want anymore. They have to do something that sells.
Maybe that's a good thing, maybe it's not. But I like the hobbyist games, where you're not limited to what the majority of people like, and you can make something unique without caring about what other people think.
I like those sorts of games, and I like the sorts of people that make them. It's a personal opinion, but whatever.
I don't care for equality in this matter. I don't want commercial games on RMN.
It's too late since they are already here, but I can still voice my opinion on it, I suppose.
Maybe that's a good thing, maybe it's not. But I like the hobbyist games, where you're not limited to what the majority of people like, and you can make something unique without caring about what other people think.
I like those sorts of games, and I like the sorts of people that make them. It's a personal opinion, but whatever.
I don't care for equality in this matter. I don't want commercial games on RMN.
It's too late since they are already here, but I can still voice my opinion on it, I suppose.
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Educational games?
Do young uns' still play these nowadays? Who knew. Well, if that's what you wanna do, then go for it.
1. Fun distracts anyone. Especially children.
2. It's not a must to have an academic background, but it certainly helps. I'm guessing being a parent is just as good at teaching you what works with kids.
3. I did play some when I was a kid. I can't recall the name of a single one, though...
1. Fun distracts anyone. Especially children.
2. It's not a must to have an academic background, but it certainly helps. I'm guessing being a parent is just as good at teaching you what works with kids.
3. I did play some when I was a kid. I can't recall the name of a single one, though...
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author=Sated
Honestly, I'm against commercial games being on the site period.
Seconded. There's enough sites to get commercial games if you want to. I like the hobbyist focus of the site.
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What are you thinking about right now?
author=KaneshonI'm the same, I don't really enjoy watching anything sport related, because I always find myself thinking that the result has zero impact on me or anything I care about. Maybe it's something you have to be taught to enjoy while younger. Kinda like religion.
Its weird that I find more entertainment in scripted sports, than the actual one.
Like reading a baseball/soccer/basketball/etc. manga, I fangirl at an instant.
Probably because I enjoy the drama.
Also Professional Wrestling is <3.
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