TEHGUY'S PROFILE

author=Alichains
Breitbart quotemined a woman named Shirley Sherrod in order to make her seem like she was racist against white people, which got her fired. As you can probably guess, Breitbart is about as far away from ethical journalism as you can possibly get.

Yes, yes.. I actually read up on that one a bit after I posted the reply..

This is why I don't gather my news from one, or even a few sources. I aggregate news/opinions from as many places as I can find it and (after tossing out the more extreme ones) form an opinion based on that

Which is what sort of peeves me off on GG: all I can get are damn harassment narratives from the main news sources and blogs while it's difficult to find enough neutral/not-horridly-biased pro- articles and blogs. I don't care if all MSM demonizes something/someone, I still want to know all the neutral/pro shit on the story else my opinion can become horridly skewed.

she actually said something closer to "violent media normalizes violent behavior". I find this hilarious because I had to read a book for a 100 level history class (Demonic Males by Richard W. Wrangham) that claimed exactly that. Of course since the author and professor are both male...

I play/watch violent media and yet all I can usually muster are a few angry words. It's a case-by-case thing, IMO. Some will be influenced by what they play/watch and others, well, won't. It's still horridly wrong to say "Well X just shot up a school, and he so happens to have a copy of DOOM.. THE GAME TOTALLY MADE HIM DO IT! IT INFLUENCED HIM TO DO BAD!" or "HE'S A GAMER! THAT MEANS GAMES MAKE PEOPLE VIOLENT ARAGHAGH" without anything to seriously back that up (because a lot of the time it turns out that the kid was going through some serious shit before they snapped)

Granted you may or may not have been arguing that point, I still find the claim to not hold much weight as of yet.

>So this may end up being the longest thread on the forum...

author=Corfaisus

author=Zeigfried_McBacon

author=Corfaisus

author=Zeigfried_McBacon
Until Anti-GG can openly cast off social justice bullshit and the various people who claim to care about women but actually don't, not mention the other various hoodlums causing issues for everyone involved, all it will end up doing is fueling pro-GG.

GamerGate: "Nobody truly cares about women. Everybody's lying. It's all a misandrist attempt to take away my video game rape/woman-beating/big-boob-jiggling! How dare they take these things away from ME!"

I do hope this is just a lil fun sarcasm on your part and not some shitty attempt at personally attacking me, seeing as I tend to give slight preferential treatment to women.

Actually it's neither. What I posted was a criticism directed at the undeniable foundation of GamerGate that you've presented before me; that no one else truly cares and they just want to look good. If you were doing no such thing, then there truly was no reason to respond in such.

You can become part of the problem, though. You know, if you want this to be about you.

I can see where you're coming from on this as it does appear that those of us arguing in favor of GG are trying to get those arguing against into dropping the entire stigma attached to it and I will agree: there a plenty of those who care what it looks like to those outside it.

At the very least, though, my posts were simply for discussion all parts of the matter. Trying to change someone's perception on the matter hardly crossed my mind.

Browsing across the /gg/ board, I can see many who are finally coming to terms with the fact that no mainstream network will give them any sort of neutral or positive light and have simply stopped giving a shit about image and have gone back into doing whatever the movement has on its task list

Though as long as the people who still care exist, arguments like these will continue to occur all over the 'net and real life. None of them will move staunch opponents such as yourself and I suppose kentona, it essentially ends up as it does here: two groups bashing heads against a brick wall. Really, only people that could be described as "fence-sitters" are going to be swayed one way or another.

To be honest, though, discussion here has given me much to sit on as I continue to watch events unfold and I suppose I'm happy for the chance to have sat down and actually talked with those against GG in a rational manner (because those damn twitter convos and news pieces were just.. hard to read, so to say).

>still neutral on the matter, though.. Nothing can stop my skepticism from running both ways :p

Anyhow, I think I'm going to go back to watching UE4 tutorials and somewhat fretting over my calculus test tomorrow

EDIT:

Why do people think GG is about ethics in game journalism?

Possibly the moderates with large followings turning some of the admittedly tinfoil stuff into something easier to swallow (I guess you could term it "red pilling" like in the Matrix)

That and people like TotalBiscuit actually recognize an issue within the industry (journos or no) and have been trying to peacefully reach some sort of compromise (again, he recently went on with Totilo on the matter who also has admitted to there being issues with the industry)






in unrelated news, apparently Anonymous has come back into the light, if only for a bit, over that @opgamergate stuff

basically, they came out to deal with whoever made this video, apparently






it's quite a laugh :p

so her free game

(actually, I don't think it was free around that point)

while doing nothing either too stop the harassment

So what's your proposed method of stopped trolls from creating a twitter and tweeting under the hashtag? What do you propose to stop them from freely posting on an anonymous image board?

All the proponents can do is call it out and report what they can

accomplish anything towards the alleged goal of ethical journalism

The Escapist's chance in ethical code comes to mind. Furthermore, it's kinda hard to change things that are set so rigidly against doing so and would rather burn in the flames of hell over budging.

Frankly, I'm willing to bet that if any of the accused sites simply posted some sort of ethics code or, at the least, said "we'll conduct an internal investigation" then it'd be nowhere near the level of hell it is today.

author=harmonic
And no, there's not going to be a movement this big and diverse just to keep in-game rape and boob giggling.

Problem comes when mainstream media continually demonizes things with a bunch of one-sided articles.

People begin to believe it and refuse to listen to any attempts to defend against allegations (again, see the CEO of Stardock)

>out of curiosity, how many people here know of TFYC's story?

EDIT: seems as he has addressed it..

author=slashphoenix
continues to progress with violent threats.

Sources on that, out of curiosity? Every time I see this presented the poster never backs it up or posts an article, even though that fails to back up its claims (or sources the person claiming said stuff to begin with in some strange loop).

And none of that "X gets harassment letter -> X opposes GG -> therefore said letter is from GG" level of mental gymnastics

Of course, I will admit that this has been a difficult thing to ultimately prove. GG is heavily anonymous and literally anyone can jump in on the hashtag and start flinging shit in order to stir the pot even more. I could go make a twitter right now, fling death threats at Wu, Quinn, Anita, etc. under the hashtag for the sole purpose of garnering unneeded conflict all around (because you damn well know as soon as the GG hashtag is in the message it's definitely getting a screencap or RT)

author=kentona
If the people really wanted to change the industry, then they will have to drop the GG banner.

As good as it would be, they're holding fast to the tag with no sign of ever dropping it.

Then there's another problem, if they do drop it and come back under another banner then the trolls would still hijack it and we'd still be where we are today.

>Plus, one can already argue they've changed banners. This stuff started out as the "Quinnspiracy" before Baldwin gave them the name "GamerGate" after the journalistic issues had been brought up and people re-rallied under that