[MAFIA] RMN: WHEN THEY CRY (TEA PARTY)

@piano You can just say you don't believe me, you know. You don't have to lie. Like, I clearly made more points than "she disagreed with me" and I have never used my vote the way you're implying. In fact, I explained it, but you sort of ignored it. Really don't believe you're being honest and I hope if I die town remembers.

@cave I don't think the case for cap is compelling. Isn't it just that he's being non-commital?

author=Gourd_Clae
@piano You can just say you don't believe me, you know. You don't have to lie. Like, I clearly made more points than "she disagreed with me" and I have never used my vote the way you're implying. In fact, I explained it, but you sort of ignored it. Really don't believe you're being honest and I hope if I die town remembers.

@cave I don't think the case for cap is compelling. Isn't it just that he's being non-commital?

Being non-commital is a good reasoning for wanting to lynch someone, in my opinion. If someone is not very commited to the game, they are doing one of two things:
If they are town, they're not being very useful to town as they're not participating in any scum hunt and are just drawing suspicion to themselves.
If they are scum, they're trying to post as little as possible to seem inconspicious so that they can stay off other player's radars for longer.

@Gourd While I can't guilt you for eagerness I do still find it suspicious. I also find Cap's absence suspicious. Explain yourself Cap, for you are currently at the top of my list followed by Gourd.

#lynch Cap_H

author=Gourd_Clae
@cave I don't think the case for cap is compelling. Isn't it just that he's being non-commital?

sell me on muffle, then. i'm seeing a lot of words but not much that's convincing.

I don't see muffle being a wolf here, gourd. If you read her exchange with LockeZ there was something very pure about her and the way she reacted. I skipped her later walls, but they felt like unnecessary defensive and slightly fluffy.
I'm not so sure about LockeZ. I know he's doing this stuff as either alignment. Other than that he was quite quiet and not overly aggressive. That's a good sign in his case.
Piano has been very productive from the start. I don't see a reason to hurry with solving if he's a wolf. Plus I mostly agree with his case on Gourd, who indeed wasn't very convincing so far.
Ozzy's voting people for poor reasons. I'm used to see that from him, but I'm also used to see him flip wolf.

author=OzzyTheOne
@Gourd While I can't guilt you for eagerness I do still find it suspicious. I also find Cap's absence suspicious. Explain yourself Cap, for you are currently at the top of my list followed by Gourd.

#lynch Cap_H

What do you want me to explain? I'm not going to defend my earlier posts as they were indeed non-commital. I waited for gourd to post more before making any decisions.
Talking about Gourd, I'm flattered that he defended me. Other than that I don't find his comments any good. I think that the cross-examination from piano would be enough to make him look better.
But I don't want to vote him just yet.
My top 2 suspects are ESBY and Cave. ESBY disappeared after few snarky comments and talking about non-commital, he indeed is. And this:

author=ESBY
do you not find it odd that lockez and muffle were bickering and voting for each other only to end up voting for the same person?

This might be a typical case of shadowing. Is it his opinion or an opinion he's suggesting could jump on? And that's his last comment.
And Cave's all over the place. He voted almost everyone now and nobody's really talking about it. He's trying to rule the game again. Also, his defense of Muffle makes me sure that he's trying to protect me. This makes me even more sure that muffle is town.

#lynch CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

Alright, I missed most of the day phase due to a date which lasted all afternoon and night. Catching up right now.

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Okay, so on page 5 and 6 I thought the Gourd train was getting a bit too much traction a bit too quickly, especially with the way the whole LockeZ/Muffle interaction went down, and the way Gourd always jokes/roleplays around in mafia games, especially day 1...

author=Gourd_Clae
It's kinda close to deadline and there aren't that many people on you anyway. I think I have reason enough to vote for you and I don't have to worry about you getting lynched too quick. So:

#Lynch muffle

...but what the crap is this. You try to explain this as not wanting the hammer to fall too quickly? But why is that necessary if it's "kinda close to deadline"? And why the need to say this in the first place? You do want people to actually vote along with you in the end, right? This feels very much like you're trying to throw down an empty vote just for the sake of throwing down a vote. It doesn't help that I don't think Muffle is scum.

#Lynch Gourd_Clae

I don't think CAVE's case on Cap is very strong, as Cap's shown this non-committal, overly analytical behaviour in all of his games. I do wonder about this though:

author=Cap_H
And Cave's all over the place. He voted almost everyone now and nobody's really talking about it. He's trying to rule the game again. Also, his defense of Muffle makes me sure that he's trying to protect me. This makes me even more sure that muffle is town.

#lynch CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

His defense of Muffle makes you sure he's trying to protect you? You, the person he's voting for? And that makes him scum... why exactly?

The first comment from tunger on this page actually says nothing. I like that he's not jumping on other players, voting all over the place but this might be little too polite. But I don't feel any ill intentions from it.
The second post is questioning Ozzy, but there is no real opinion. He's only pointing out towards Demonlord in a very light matter. It's hard to base any new read on these posts.

author=Jeroen_Sol
His defense of Muffle makes you sure he's trying to protect you? You, the person he's voting for? And that makes him scum... why exactly?

Hm, I probably deleted a part of the sentence there, because this doesn't make sense at all. 1) I wanted to write that they're not together, by writing that he's not protecting her in a w/w fashion and that he might be trying to pocket her.

author=Jeroen_Sol

author=OzzyTheOne
@Gourd While I can't guilt you for eagerness I do still find it suspicious. I also find Cap's absence suspicious. Explain yourself Cap, for you are currently at the top of my list followed by Gourd.

#lynch Cap_H

I have been absent. So has demonlord. Cap hasn't been absent. This reason doesn't feel legit.

Yup, Ozze looks like he's fabricating reasons to vote other people. And he's been more absent than i at this point.
I can see Gourd and Ozzy being a thing as this was a very poor reason to vote me.

author=Cap_H
Hm, I probably deleted a part of the sentence there, because this doesn't make sense at all. 1) I wanted to write that they're not together, by writing that he's not protecting her in a w/w fashion and that he might be trying to pocket her.

That makes more sense. But CAVE hasn't done anything yet that makes me think this is w/t rather than just t/t. I agree Muffle is probably town though.