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[MAFIA] CHRONO TRIGGER - A MAFIA THROUGH TIME - GAME OVER

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I guess a day action was used? The first post does say that we only get told when day actions are used, not what they were or who did them. And presumably this also means no one died because of the action.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
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y'all are complete lunatics for A. believing that scum wouldn't have fakeclaims. if that's the case, we can just massclaim now and solve the game (no) and B. voting to travel based on extremely unfounded logic that wouldn't even mean this to be a good move if it was true (u know who ELSE was really important in 600 AD...?) instead of going to cool robot world where there is free wifi. also I could totally see odd's extra double vote claim as something scum could have given it's a 1-shot.

however, #cancel
#lynch fomar LEVEL 99 fencesitting in this guys post history...just take a look. it's masked with a lot of words but yowzers. writing a lot of words to say nothing is like, number 1 indicator that someone is doing evils. I searched for the words however and but and got eight billion results.

also willing to vote AE but I prefer fomar. its the same case but better.

#Cancel Lynch

I got a question, couple people are thinking Odd's claim is a fake claim. I get that, but what's the chance of someone being able to make a valid fake claim in an original mafia game? I guess if they played chrono trigger they could try and make one up, but that seems unlikely right? This is homemade roles right? That's the main reason why I'm willing to believe odd's claim, because it's not like he's claiming something everyone knows like oh, bodyguard or seer. This is a genuine question btw.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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100% if they're given one by the moderator.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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if you're not from the future fuck you
author=OldPat
Let me re-elaborate what I just said. xD Coming from a mafia newbie, at least on day one, I would expect some rng lynches that could change at any minute. Of course, giving a reason for the lynch is the best way to go, but I would be more suspicious of a badly explained, flawed one on day one than on an rng one just to "test the terrain".


Preach! Yeah, I haven't seen much going on aside from people saying "So and so looks suspicious, hmm" though I can't personally find any grounds for suspicion other than people kinda ganging up on someone randomly and to me THAT looks the most suspicious of all. I know it's the first day and I'm new here, but how is it bad to just randomly roll (because we more or less *have* to lynch) until I have an actual *reason* to suspect anyone in particular of anything? Guess it's just a noob question.
author=Muffle
Hi, I’m Muffle from RMN, creator of the Eat a Cactus series. And I’m here with a message about a very issue that’s close to my heart. An issue that effects me and many others everyday. My message is simple, don’t lynch the Muffle. We live in a world where millions of people go everyday without lynching the Muffle. Why can’t you be one of them? You alone have the power to stop lynching the Muffle because you’re the one lynching the Muffle. In fact research indicates that that the simple act of lynching someone else and only someone else, we can eradicate the issue of you lynching the Muffle almost immediately, with only a dime a day. I made a little stack of dimes and put it on my dresser. It fell over, so I know you've #Lynched Muffle. Don’t lynch Muffle. I’ll set up a camera, don’t think I won’t! Once I woke up in the middle of the night and it was dark and I could see you lynching the Muffle. I mean come on, who else would it be.

Your lynch.

author=psy_wombats
Oddmurder is alright with me but also #lynch Muffle


My lynch.

author=Muffle
The End of Time is boring and useless! Now I can't use my oh so awesome ability to smite my foes with the power of lizards! #Lynch LockeZ


Stop lynching the Muffle, and you’ll receive this commemorative token bag. Then it will be your bag and you can lynch it literally whenever you want. Join me, and together we can create a world where people keep their votes to themselves. You know who you are! Seriously, who taught you manners, have some respect.

....On a more original and serious note, I'll vote to
#cancel Lynch
#Lynch Oddrabbit


I'd rather not say why because I'm not sure how to put it in words without sounding mean? Basically what everyone else is saying, I'd rather keep Cap in the game over Odd because at least Cap might provide some usefulness or a flub later on.

#vote 65000000 B.C. - Age of Reptites
Because I read it as Age of Reptiles and got excited.


Legendary response XD
author=Muffle
#Cancel LynchI got a question, couple people are thinking Odd's claim is a fake claim. I get that, but what's the chance of someone being able to make a valid fake claim in an original mafia game? I guess if they played chrono trigger they could try and make one up, but that seems unlikely right? This is homemade roles right? That's the main reason why I'm willing to believe odd's claim, because it's not like he's claiming something everyone knows like oh, bodyguard or seer. This is a genuine question btw.


Seconded^ Did Odd say he's played Chrono Trigger before?

Also @CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK What would be the bad thing about just being upfront about our roles? I understand that it may shorten the time frame of the game a bit and cut out middle-convos, but that's how original Mafia and Coup and stuff are played in my experience.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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The mafia team will, if the game was designed by a human, have a way to both "fit in" and not be exposed by us all claiming our roles, and will also then know which players to kill. Claiming everyones roles can be beneficial and potentially even break the game open but it's really early for that and a total gamble as to whether or not it helps.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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Ok,
we play with eleven players. That's a difficult number to balance. You can have 2 wolves and relatively week town (mountainous 11er is a thing) or 3 wolves and multiple town powers to counter them or something like 2 wolves with a private chat and 1 loner/recluse. I would suspect that Jero did one of the letter as they present more openings for throwing in interesting mechanics.
It also means we very likely have only 2 mislynches. I'm usually opposed to no lynch but there might be space for it d2 or d3.

In other news

I townread Psy for reacting to the thread and jumping around freely. Wolves tend to be little more stiff with their votes.

OldPat scumread demon lord for his name. I know it was a joke, but sometimes vanity votes like this are the only votes wolves are capable of.

I'm really unsure when it comes to odd's and LockeZ reaction to my initial post. It's far from common for odd to vote this early and it looks even little worse because he piled up on town. while it looks suspicious i fully approve of more aggressive behaviour on his side and I would like to see more posts like this from him in future. His claim looks real too and should be enough to give him a pass today.

I think I got enraged by LockeZ posts like this in past and he flipped town. Or maybe scum. I don't want to go on him full meta. I think that he's an inch more aggressive as scum. There are things that look good for him this game (no nonsense attitude after the claim) and things I dislike little bit more like sticking to his vote on me. I can't say it's really wolfy as I haven't posted meanwhile, but It's something to keep an eye on.

I think I like many posts from Cave like doubting LockeZ's questions (why 2300 ad?) and not seeing any substantial evidence against Emily (I think her worst crime at that point was lack of posts).

Fomar trying to solve odd based on him claiming a positive character from Chrono Trigger was basically him trying to find a way to keep odd suspicious.

#lynch Fomar

@cave, just one remark. I think it's way easier for scum to call the claim real here and just go with it. So, if Fomar's town one or more of LockeZ/Demonlord/AEmily aren't town.

Basically where I'm at:

0-1 wolves in Psy, Cave, odd
0-2 wolves in Alaskan Emily, OldPat, Princess Lizzard
1-3 wolves in Fomar, Muffle, LockeZ, Demonlord
Cap_H
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author=OldPat
Let me re-elaborate what I just said. xD Coming from a mafia newbie, at least on day one, I would expect some rng lynches that could change at any minute. Of course, giving a reason for the lynch is the best way to go, but I would be more suspicious of a badly explained, flawed one on day one than on an rng one just to "test the terrain".


You usually try to read posts and catch things like slips in perspective, lack of opinion and waffling. Voting based on rng is a basic way to avoid pushing someone for fake reasons as mafia.
Cap_H
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regarding that post you piled on me for, i was really eager to share that there was some content you could take and use to form early opinions so early on.
You know I usually have some reads early on just get the ball rolling.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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Day 1 Lynch Votecount as of 2020-04-27, 13:55 CEST:

CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK: 0 - demonlord5000
oddRABBIT: 0 - CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Fomar0153, demonlord5000, Muffle
LockeZ: 1 - Muffle, Lizardman_Princess
demonlord5000: 1 - psy_wombats, OldPat
psy_wombats: 0 - Cap_H
Cap_H: 2 - psy_wombats, LockeZ, oddRABBIT
Muffle: 0 - psy_wombats
AlaskanEmily: 1 - psy_wombats
Fomar0153: 2 - CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Cap_H

Not voting: 4 - AlaskanEmily, demonlord5000, Fomar0153, Muffle

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 Time Travel Votecount as of 2020-04-27, 13:55 CEST:

65000000 B.C.: 1 - Muffle
600 A.D: 4 - LockeZ, psy_wombats, oddRABBIT, demonlord5000
2300 A.D.: 5 - CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, psy_wombats, Cap_H, Fomar0153, OldPat, LockeZ, oddRABBIT, demonlord5000, Lizardman_Princess

Not voting: 1 - AlaskanEmily

Day 1 will end 2020-04-27, 22:00 CEST, in about 8 hours, or when hammer is reached.
OldPat
OrudoPatto, kisama!
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I'll be honest, while my vote lynch on Demonlord was a "day one rng explained as if it was a joke" I did find him and others going all out on Odd right away a bit suspicious. Coming, again, from someone who never had anything to do with Odd inside Mafia.

Things shuffled a bit since then.
I was waiting for Cap's post before canceling my lynch and reconsider.

For now
#Cancel Lynch




Cap_H
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Odd's posting here is way more out there and I dare to say almost confident. I think that it's because his claim's real and the previous game's probably why he claimed so early.

I believe the claim for more reason. There's a chance that role like this is a mafia role and mafia can benefit from secret votes and it def can cause some chaos, but double voters, mayors and tie breakers are more frequently town roles. What makes me even more confident is his second claimed power. Townread scum can easily manipulate town into giving mana to them. So, it's a role, which has a great potential only as a town role as both sides can benefit from good/bad use of powers odd has.

It also to some degree explains odds previous unusual behaviour. He voted early on because he has a lynch manipulating power.

Ofc, as a good mafia player you should be able to read odd without his meta from older games. It's difficult sometimes, because odd's rarely this active and you can't take a lot from his actions. Fortunately, there are other ways like finding everyone else impossible to be mafia late game.
Cap_H
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author=Jero
oddRABBIT: 0- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Fomar0153, demonlord5000, Muffle


And we should take a look at this wagon too. Everyone who piled on odd has a good chance of flipping mafia. DOG's reason for voting odd wasn't best to start with and using it as an opportunity to jump on the wagon is extremely wolfy. This makes Fomar, Demonlord and Muffle ideal wagons for today.
Also, all three of them canceled without voting again.

Cap_H
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AlaskanEmily looks bad because she haven't committed herself to a vote yet. I'm not sure if she posted any reads.
What makes her look slightly less like mafia and more like afking player is that she haven't voted on time travel yet.
Cap_H
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author=Lizardman_Princess
author=Muffle
#Cancel LynchI got a question, couple people are thinking Odd's claim is a fake claim. I get that, but what's the chance of someone being able to make a valid fake claim in an original mafia game? I guess if they played chrono trigger they could try and make one up, but that seems unlikely right? This is homemade roles right? That's the main reason why I'm willing to believe odd's claim, because it's not like he's claiming something everyone knows like oh, bodyguard or seer. This is a genuine question btw.
Seconded^ Did Odd say he's played Chrono Trigger before?

Also @CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK What would be the bad thing about just being upfront about our roles? I understand that it may shorten the time frame of the game a bit and cut out middle-convos, but that's how original Mafia and Coup and stuff are played in my experience.


I've just noticed this post. I find it little weird that Princess chose to reply to all posts Muffle made (and I agree on her wall being legendary), but this question comes from an angle, which I read as pure. Pure tone often equals town.