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Problems with Windows 7
post=120939post=120937post=120190I could try, if can legally put my hands on a version of WinXP Pro... ;)post=120109not if you use a virtual machine, it creates a virtual hard drive as a file on your existing hard drive. the virtual hard drive also has a rolling storage capacity, meaning instead of being a full-size hard drive it will only be as large as the files present on it.post=120106Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
post=120253
I have grown fond of how reliable XP is. So instead of upgrading to a newer operating system, I've used Virtualbox's support for 64-bit guest OSs in a 32-bit host for the past two years.
edit: i.e. virtualization is the solution to 67.345% of everything
post=120216
You should grab yourself a Linux distro just as backup (I like Ubuntu myself). You can boot up and run the entire OS off a CD/USB Stick without installing anything. It won't save you from Windows crapping out, but handy to have around if Windows does get to a point it can't boot. You can boot entirely into Linux off the CD/USB, and access the hard-drive to backup files or whatever before formatting and reinstalling Windows. I've saved several friends stuff with it.
I will try...but if everything else fails.
First, W7 was pre-installed on this new comp, so I don't have the CD to re-install Windows if I do something wrong, or if I get as many error messages as I got from Linux when I tried to run it alongside with Windows Millenium.
Moreover, Windows 7 is a paying software. It has to work, and any problem youencounter with must have a solution, otherwise it's a mere hoax.
post=120129
Extract this to the folder of an RMXP game that doesn't work and change Game.ini to use this RGSS dll.This is what worked when XP and Vista decided to hate each other and I'm curious if this let's you play the games that doesn't work.
Also can you open the XP/VX editors at all?
I did...and it just told me that the thing was extracted, don't remember the exact words. the I opened the game (Phylomortis) and guess what? Rgss not working.
But there are probably other details to be changed (RTP1= standard, for example? )
I don't know anything about game making though, so I can't answer you properly. Maybe I will pm you about it for more details (I don't even know if I made things the right way.)
I will try to find time and post screenshots, so that you can see what it did. Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
post=120226
To elaborate a bit, I'm just venting because you hear this crap everywhere someone is asking for help.
"Help, I just installed Windows 7 on a brand new hard drive. I did everything including doing a thorough SMART scan on the drive, and did research to ensure all of my components ar..."
"WELL IT WORKS FINE FOR ME WINDOWS SEVEN IS THE BEST"
Thanks, Nightblade. I was not offended by those reactions, you know. In the contrary I'm quite happy to know that some people have no problems at all.
In an other hand ...well, I can't be happy that you encountered the same bugs I had, but at least it reassures me as a sign that all those problems are not due to my clumsiness.
Windows 7 doesn't show the files extensions by default. If I ask the system to show them, it will make the comp freeze next time I want to switch it on or out,
When I remove the admin's account then some programs will merely not be launched.
When I have to leave the comp before I entered the Admin's password then the comp freezes.
"Please wait before switching off your machine, Windows will install 32 768 important updates" (sic)
Windows 7 refuses to open links given via Mozilla or Skype, even though I set Firefox as my default browser.
In the same time, when I use CCleaner , I can see that I got cookies and such crap...from Internet Explorer, that I don't want to use! MAkes me mad.
Want more? :P
post=120220post=120217
I don't know how to solve the problems you're having, but if I were you I would just switch back to Windows XP if possible. Way I figure none of the new stuff Windows 7 offers is worth the headaches it seems to be causing you.post=120338
XP == old software for old hardware.
Win7 == new software for new hardware.
Don't expect the latest to run on the oldest.
Well, one of my purposes when I made this topic, was to warn game makers that there was a huge problem there.
RM2k and RM2K3 games work fine with Windows 7.
Some RMVX and most RMXP don't, though those RM programs are more recent...
post=120839
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
You said THE master word: Windows 7 ultimate. Mine is just "home edition premium". The fact that I encounter problems and you don't is a pure effect of chance, no doubt... :P
If it had been me, I wouldn't have switched to Windows 7 till it was completely bug free and safe. But W7 will eventually become THE prominent operating system, and softwares will be made for this version. So better get used to it as soon as possible. *sigh*
Anyway thankss a lot everybody for your comments and suggestions.
Problems with Windows 7
post=120937post=120190I could try, if can legally put my hands on a version of WinXP Pro... ;)post=120109not if you use a virtual machine, it creates a virtual hard drive as a file on your existing hard drive. the virtual hard drive also has a rolling storage capacity, meaning instead of being a full-size hard drive it will only be as large as the files present on it.post=120106Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
post=120253
I have grown fond of how reliable XP is. So instead of upgrading to a newer operating system, I've used Virtualbox's support for 64-bit guest OSs in a 32-bit host for the past two years.
edit: i.e. virtualization is the solution to 67.345% of everything
post=120216
You should grab yourself a Linux distro just as backup (I like Ubuntu myself). You can boot up and run the entire OS off a CD/USB Stick without installing anything. It won't save you from Windows crapping out, but handy to have around if Windows does get to a point it can't boot. You can boot entirely into Linux off the CD/USB, and access the hard-drive to backup files or whatever before formatting and reinstalling Windows. I've saved several friends stuff with it.
I will try...but if everything else fails.
First, W7 was pre-installed on this new comp, so I don't have the CD to re-install Windows if I do something wrong, or if I get as many error messages as I got from Linux when I tried to run it alongside with Windows Millenium.
Moreover, Windows 7 is a paying software. It has to work, and any problem youencounter with must have a solution, otherwise it's a mere hoax.
post=120129
Extract this to the folder of an RMXP game that doesn't work and change Game.ini to use this RGSS dll.This is what worked when XP and Vista decided to hate each other and I'm curious if this let's you play the games that doesn't work.
Also can you open the XP/VX editors at all?
I did...and it just told me that the thing was extracted, don't remember the exact words. the I opened the game (Phylomortis) and guess what? Rgss not working.
But there are probably other details to be changed (RTP1= standard, for example? )
I don't know anything about game making though, so I can't answer you properly. Maybe I will pm you about it for more details (I don't even know if I made things the right way.)
I will try to find time and post screenshots, so that you can see what it did. Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
post=120226
To elaborate a bit, I'm just venting because you hear this crap everywhere someone is asking for help.
"Help, I just installed Windows 7 on a brand new hard drive. I did everything including doing a thorough SMART scan on the drive, and did research to ensure all of my components ar..."
"WELL IT WORKS FINE FOR ME WINDOWS SEVEN IS THE BEST"
Thanks, Nightblade. I was not offended by those reactions, you know. In the contrary I'm quite happy to know that some people have no problems at all.
In an other hand ...well, I can't be happy that you encountered the same bugs I had, but at least it reassures me as a sign that all those problems are not due to my clumsiness.
Windows 7 doesn't show the files extensions by default. If I ask the system to show them, it will make the comp freeze next time I want to switch it on or out,
When I remove the admin's account then some programs will merely not be launched.
When I have to leave the comp before I entered the Admin's password then the comp freezes.
"Please wait before switching off your machine, Windows will install 32 768 important updates" (sic)
Want more? :P
post=120220post=120217
I don't know how to solve the problems you're having, but if I were you I would just switch back to Windows XP if possible. Way I figure none of the new stuff Windows 7 offers is worth the headaches it seems to be causing you.post=120338
XP == old software for old hardware.
Win7 == new software for new hardware.
Don't expect the latest to run on the oldest.
Well, one of my purposes when I made this topic, was to warn game makers that there was a huge problem there.
RM2k and RM2K3 games work fine with Windows 7.
Some RMVX and most RMXP don't, though those RM programs are more recent...
post=120839
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
You said THE master word: Windows 7 ultimate. Mine is just "home edition premium". The fact that I encounter problems and you don't is a pure effect of chance, no doubt... :P
If it had been me, I wouldn't have switched to Windows 7 till it was completely bug free and safe. But W7 will eventually become THE prominent operating system, and softwares will be made for this version. So better get used to it as soon as possible. *sigh*
Anyway thankss a lot everybody for your comments and suggestions.
Problems with Windows 7
post=120190post=120109not if you use a virtual machine, it creates a virtual hard drive as a file on your existing hard drive. the virtual hard drive also has a rolling storage capacity, meaning instead of being a full-size hard drive it will only be as large as the files present on it.post=120106Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
I could try, if can legally put my hands on a version of WinXP Pro... ;)
post=120253
I have grown fond of how reliable XP is. So instead of upgrading to a newer operating system, I've used Virtualbox's support for 64-bit guest OSs in a 32-bit host for the past two years.
edit: i.e. virtualization is the solution to 67.345% of everything
You should grab yourself a Linux distro just as backup (I like Ubuntu myself). You can boot up and run the entire OS off a CD/USB Stick without installing anything. It won't save you from Windows crapping out, but handy to have around if Windows does get to a point it can't boot. You can boot entirely into Linux off the CD/USB, and access the hard-drive to backup files or whatever before formatting and reinstalling Windows. I've saved several friends stuff with it.
I will try...but if everything else fails.
First, W7 was pre-installed on this new comp, so I don't have the CD to re-install Windows if I do something wrong, or if I get as many error messages as I got from Linux when I tried to run it alongside with Windows Millenium.
Moreover, Windows 7 is a paying software. It has to work, and any problem youencounter with must have a solution, otherwise it's a mere hoax.
post=120129
Extract this to the folder of an RMXP game that doesn't work and change Game.ini to use this RGSS dll.This is what worked when XP and Vista decided to hate each other and I'm curious if this let's you play the games that doesn't work.
Also can you open the XP/VX editors at all?
I did...and it just told me that the thing was extracted, don't remember the exact words. the I opened the game (Phylomortis) and guess what? Rgss not working.
But there are probably other details to be changed (RTP1= standard, for example? )
I don't know anything about game making though, so I can't answer you properly. Maybe I will pm you about it for more details (I don't even know if I made things the right way.)
I will try to find time and post screenshots, so that you can see what it did. Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
post=120226
To elaborate a bit, I'm just venting because you hear this crap everywhere someone is asking for help.
"Help, I just installed Windows 7 on a brand new hard drive. I did everything including doing a thorough SMART scan on the drive, and did research to ensure all of my components ar..."
"WELL IT WORKS FINE FOR ME WINDOWS SEVEN IS THE BEST"
Thanks, Nightblade. I was not offended by those reactions, you know. In the contrary I'm quite happy to know that some people have no problems at all.
In an other hand ...well, I can't be happy that you encountered the same bugs I had, but at least it reassures me as a sign that all those problems are not due to my clumsiness.
Windows 7 doesn't show the files extensions by default. If I ask the system to show them, it will make the comp freeze next time I want to switch it on or out,
When I remove the admin's account then some programs will merely not be launched.
When I have to leave the comp before I entered the Admin's password then the comp freezes.
"Please wait before switching off your machine, Windows will install 32 768 important updates" (sic)
Want more? :P
post=120220post=120217
I don't know how to solve the problems you're having, but if I were you I would just switch back to Windows XP if possible. Way I figure none of the new stuff Windows 7 offers is worth the headaches it seems to be causing you.post=120338
XP == old software for old hardware.
Win7 == new software for new hardware.
Don't expect the latest to run on the oldest.
Well, one of my purposes when I made this topic, was to warn game makers that there was a huge problem there.
RM2k and RM2K3 games work fine with Windows 7.
Some RMVX and most RMXP don't, though those RM programs are more recent...
post=120839
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
You said THE master word: Windows 7 ultimate. Mine is just "home edition premium". The fact that I encounter problems and you don't is a pure effect of chance, no doubt... :P
If it had been me, I wouldn't have switched to Windows 7 till it was completely bug free and safe. But W7 will eventually become THE prominent operating system, and softwares will be made for this version. So better get used to it as soon as possible. *sigh*
Anyway thankss a lot everybody for your comments and suggestions.
PMs
@Wolfcoder: I was just asking if there was a way to delete or edit PMs. I would never dare to give orders to anybody.
@Wip: for a forgetful brain like mine, it would be nice to be able to edit PMs, Moreover I'm veeeery able to send one to the wrong person...hence my question about deleting. Not to mention my awful English...
But as I told Wolfcoder, I just asked if the feature was available, and am now just explaining why I thought that it could be useful.
I don't really understand the reason why it will never be available, except that you are overloaded with more important work. But you took your decision, gave your answer, and it's fine, the topic is closed for me. I'll do my best to not be too awkward when I send PMs.
@Wip: for a forgetful brain like mine, it would be nice to be able to edit PMs, Moreover I'm veeeery able to send one to the wrong person...hence my question about deleting. Not to mention my awful English...
But as I told Wolfcoder, I just asked if the feature was available, and am now just explaining why I thought that it could be useful.
I don't really understand the reason why it will never be available, except that you are overloaded with more important work. But you took your decision, gave your answer, and it's fine, the topic is closed for me. I'll do my best to not be too awkward when I send PMs.
Problems with Windows 7
post=120106
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
...and as we are good citizens respecting the law, we won't use them, will we? :P
Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
Anyway, thanks a lot for the advice. :)
Problems with Windows 7
post=120100
no 'hacking' required either
Really? Well, maybe I should have used the word "pirate" instead, because I don't have the Windows XP installation disk anymore. silly me.
Or is there a legal way to get Windows XP back?
Problems with Windows 7
@ facesforce: I would have stuck with Windows XP, but the present was a complete surprise, so I didn't have any opportunity to give my opinion. I think that the ultimate (and most expensive) versions of Windows 7 allow you to switch to Windows XP in order to be able to run some programs, and that you can too switch from 64b to 32 b and back to 64 again.
Well, I guess that W7 will improve with time...but right now, I have to find ways to make it work.
@GreatRedSpirit: "Family edition" is the name given to the French version. ( changing names, what a stupid idea...) I've read somewhere that there were problems with the non-English versions of Windows Vista and 7, due to the use of special characters in the translated texts.
My previous computer was very old: to give you an idea, it was sold with Windows Millenium (Windows Me in english) pre-installed, so I fast changed it for Windows XP pro.
RGSS3 is the (wrong) name I use for "RGSS103J.dll", that is supposed to fix problems encountered with Vista. If it really works, then it could work with Windows 7 too, or at least I think so.
The new comp is a Packard Bell imedia S3720
Processor Pentium (R) Dual-Core - CPU E5300 @ - 2.60 Ghz
4.00 GB RAM
OS 64 bits.
I've got it two or three days before Christmas.
And no, your comment was not "unhelpful anecdotal observations". :)
@Geodude: yes, it could be the solution, but it will take a lot of room, so I will do it only if it's the last available solution. Also I don't like much hacking for myself, "but that's me!" ;)
I transferred all the RPGMaker and RTPs programs from my old PC to the new one and installed them, including RMVX.
And yes, Windows doesn't worth anything.
Nightblade, I couldn't agree more with you. Except that I'm not fine for now. :P
Well, I guess that W7 will improve with time...but right now, I have to find ways to make it work.
@GreatRedSpirit: "Family edition" is the name given to the French version. ( changing names, what a stupid idea...) I've read somewhere that there were problems with the non-English versions of Windows Vista and 7, due to the use of special characters in the translated texts.
My previous computer was very old: to give you an idea, it was sold with Windows Millenium (Windows Me in english) pre-installed, so I fast changed it for Windows XP pro.
RGSS3 is the (wrong) name I use for "RGSS103J.dll", that is supposed to fix problems encountered with Vista. If it really works, then it could work with Windows 7 too, or at least I think so.
The new comp is a Packard Bell imedia S3720
Processor Pentium (R) Dual-Core - CPU E5300 @ - 2.60 Ghz
4.00 GB RAM
OS 64 bits.
I've got it two or three days before Christmas.
And no, your comment was not "unhelpful anecdotal observations". :)
@Geodude: yes, it could be the solution, but it will take a lot of room, so I will do it only if it's the last available solution. Also I don't like much hacking for myself, "but that's me!" ;)
I transferred all the RPGMaker and RTPs programs from my old PC to the new one and installed them, including RMVX.
And yes, Windows doesn't worth anything.
Nightblade, I couldn't agree more with you. Except that I'm not fine for now. :P
PMs
Is there a way to delete (or at least edit) a pm that I've sent by mistake before the addressee opened it?
And by the way, how can I empty my mailbox and my "notices box?"
Thanks! :)
And by the way, how can I empty my mailbox and my "notices box?"
Thanks! :)
Problems with Windows 7
I didn't know where to post this, at it's not related at MAKING games, but at PLAYING them. Well, as it's related to games anyway, I hope that it will fit here.
I've been given a new computer lately...with Windows7 family Edition pre-installed. It replaced my old one, that had Windows XP Pro installed on it. All the RPG Maker games worked fine with that OS, even if VX and XP lagged so much.
This new comp is very powerful, but Windows7 doesn't like RMXP and RMVX games, though I have absolutely no problem with the RM2K and RM2K3 games.
When a setup program isincluded in the .zip file, the game can be installed, and most of the time can be played without any problem.
When there is none, when I try and run the game, I get the message "RGSS (or RGSS2) player stopped working" (I hope that I translated it fine)...a well known error message, isn't it?
First of all, I changed the parameters so that every game was executed in compatibility mode with Windows XP . No result.
I tried to switch out the DEP for the RTPs and RSS files I'd dowloaded, but it didn't work. So I had to. open every game file andun-active the DEP for any .exe file I could find there.
Some games worked, mostly RMVX ones, but others didn't.
I downloaded the RGSS3 file made by RPG Advocate, but got no result. I tried to:
- simply add it
- add it and remove the RGSS1 or 2
- when there were two or more different RGSS files, remove only one of them and replace it with the RGSS3 file.
No result at all this time, but I must admit that I was fed up and tried only for two games.
So here is the bilan:
RMXP:
Working:
Exit Fate
Exodus
Fate's Defenders
Sleepers
The Serpents Eye
Not working:
Knight Templar
Phylomortis
The New Earth
Last scenario, (made by SCF) ,Symphonic Rhapsody and Mists of Naladia, (made by Darkhalo) , 3 games that are not available here.
RMVX:
Not working:
Demon tower
Versus Xerxa
Visions and Voices
Working:
Avarice
Harper
Magic quest Series
Mokensen
Power quest Demo
Rhukaat plus
staff of Cyrenia
The Cartographer
The Contract
Thief VX
The strangest fact is that during the two or three days after I got the comp, it was able to run "Visions and Voices" properly. Seems that one of the updates I got for Windows7 messed it all.
My post is rather long, but I wanted to give all the details, just in case.
I'm out of ideas, and merely getting mad!
Please help!
I've been given a new computer lately...with Windows7 family Edition pre-installed. It replaced my old one, that had Windows XP Pro installed on it. All the RPG Maker games worked fine with that OS, even if VX and XP lagged so much.
This new comp is very powerful, but Windows7 doesn't like RMXP and RMVX games, though I have absolutely no problem with the RM2K and RM2K3 games.
When a setup program isincluded in the .zip file, the game can be installed, and most of the time can be played without any problem.
When there is none, when I try and run the game, I get the message "RGSS (or RGSS2) player stopped working" (I hope that I translated it fine)...a well known error message, isn't it?
First of all, I changed the parameters so that every game was executed in compatibility mode with Windows XP . No result.
I tried to switch out the DEP for the RTPs and RSS files I'd dowloaded, but it didn't work. So I had to. open every game file andun-active the DEP for any .exe file I could find there.
Some games worked, mostly RMVX ones, but others didn't.
I downloaded the RGSS3 file made by RPG Advocate, but got no result. I tried to:
- simply add it
- add it and remove the RGSS1 or 2
- when there were two or more different RGSS files, remove only one of them and replace it with the RGSS3 file.
No result at all this time, but I must admit that I was fed up and tried only for two games.
So here is the bilan:
RMXP:
Working:
Exit Fate
Exodus
Fate's Defenders
Sleepers
The Serpents Eye
Not working:
Knight Templar
Phylomortis
The New Earth
Last scenario, (made by SCF) ,Symphonic Rhapsody and Mists of Naladia, (made by Darkhalo) , 3 games that are not available here.
RMVX:
Not working:
Demon tower
Versus Xerxa
Visions and Voices
Working:
Avarice
Harper
Magic quest Series
Mokensen
Power quest Demo
Rhukaat plus
staff of Cyrenia
The Cartographer
The Contract
Thief VX
The strangest fact is that during the two or three days after I got the comp, it was able to run "Visions and Voices" properly. Seems that one of the updates I got for Windows7 messed it all.
My post is rather long, but I wanted to give all the details, just in case.
I'm out of ideas, and merely getting mad!
Please help!
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