MCDOHL'S PROFILE

post=126528
1. But this doesn't change the fact that many businesses will say "fuck it, not paying," and basically give us a plan that decides which doctors we can and can't see. This could also cut profits off for many doctors, since some will be having their clients chosen for them, some will just be cut right the fuck off. Besides, what sounds better: Paying at a discount or not paying at all?
2. But the plan they're trying for doesn't do anything to cut people from sitting on their asses, swelling up all the welfare. The problem is that we need to find a way to figure out how to cut that out. I'm all for down-on-their-luck people getting a break, but unless we find a way to figure that out, then neither plan is doing what's right. Also, I don't know where you're living, but I live in an area where one in four people is unemployed and on welfare, so I guess that's more likely to sway me.

So, in other words, your reply is "nut-uh!"?

post=126380
Also, the reasons why many people oppose the health care plan are as follows:
1. The plan offers government funded health care, which would be free, of course. Businesses will see this and revoke the current health care plan in favor of one that doesn't cost anything, because businesses are all about making as big a profit as possible. (Not saying that's a bad thing.)
2. What about these jackasses living on welfare, ten kids, not working? Free health care, so that doesn't increase incentive to, you know, work.

1 doesn't mean it's going to be good. Government programs aren't the best, but they are available to everybody, which is what's very important here. The more important reason though is that the government gets to play the competitor, and force health insurance industries to be competitive with each other.

I also hope you see the irony of "business making a big a profit as possible" when it comes to dealing with the health insurance companies.

2 is another bullshit argument that borderlines punditry, but I've been hearing republicans spew this talking point and nobody is rebutting it. First off, a handful of people game the system, so we have to fuck everybody else? That's very cut-off-the-nose to spite the face.

Secondly, not everyone thinks "Free shit?! Gimme!" Believe it or not, people generally don't like being unemployed, especially if you have a family and are trying to support them. There's no quality of life living on food stamps and being barely able to provide for your kids.

Are people going to work the system? Yes of course. That's just human nature. But when has that ever stopped anything? Bernie Madoff gamed over fifty-five billion dollars from countless people, but nobody has said "Well, we can't do that ever again, fuck you wall street you're shut down!"

post=126110
Sunstein wanted animals to be able to bring suit. Holdren suggested that we should have forced abortions and sterilizations.

Also, the reason why people throw around the words communism and socialism like they throw around the words "dead babies" is because they don't exactly equal long-lasting, successful governments, though I'm not saying it can't be done. Venezuela is a prime example of what a system like that can do to a country, although that's probably less because they're socialist and more because their leader is a friggin' idiot.

I'm sorry. These sound like slanted, biased pundit statements, and doing a quick google search, I'm right.

Moreover, shit like this doesn't solve issues or problems; they're designed for people who want to hate the candidate to hate the candidate, as opposed to hearing what they stand for. When you vote for a candidate for bullshit like this (Hi, I'm Scott Brown, and my stances are "Yay Trucks!" and "Baseball is cool!" Vote for me!), you get the bullshit representative. If people informed themselves of the issues and vote how they truly feel, then we wouldn't have the shit-style government we have.

Here's a big surprise: When government doesn't work, republicans win; since it's, y'know, their fucking platform.

I can get into a diatribe about what the word "socialist" really means in reference to Obama, but I think I'll refrain.

post=125732
Yours has health care to patch up those pitchfork wounds. I think the U.S. will NEVER have universal health care, ever.And this will suck.

I will agree that special interest money has corrupted the US government in tremendous ways, and why we will never see universal health care.

If you really want to fix the US government, then the money needs to be removed.

post=125556
Thought I'd weigh in. This stuck out to me. You made me think of george carlin. If I don't vote, I'm not responsible for putting that man in office. Fuck political process. Its a protest of how perverted the system has become, where you are left to choose between two candidates that have a few differing views, but sustain the same overall views and principals. Think Zeitgeist Addendum.

1 - That's excusatory bullshit that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

2 - You vote for more than just candidates on election day.