SPHERE'S PROFILE

author=demonlord5000
Couple of more observations I just ran into:

1. After the battles during one of his last lines of text in the crystal chamber: it is turn to assist you. Missing a my in front of turn.

2. After you rest at the inn and switch over to the scene with the king: his first line of text has: king:king:. You have his name twice essentially.

Better to get them out of the way before you upload.

A friend of mine caught something as well.I knew I should of backtracked so I missed it. Back at the first baron part, apparently if you backtrack and re-enter the area, cid reappears and you can walk through him.

Got all of'em! =) I'm now uploading 2.8 and already updated the latest Data Patch with the latest fixes. Thanks to you and your friend!

author=demonlord5000
This got me rather intrigued as well and I finally found some time to start on it. I'm off to a good start and I just picked up Tellah in the underground waterways, and figured I'd mention some observations so far.

1 (bug). The waterways have a lot of passability issues. Nothing game breaking as far as I can tell, but in a lot of places you can walk off cliffs/bridges straight into the water. Think I found at least 10 or 15 spots where you can do that just by wandering around checking for potential secrets. I don't think you are supposed to be able to enter the water to begin with, considering the fact if you do get in a battle on those water tiles, the actual battle background would be that of the overworld.

2. As far as I can see you can't use the ice rod as an item to cast a low level blizzard spell on the enemies to conserve my mp this early on. Curious to if this was by design or just an engine limitation.

3. Noticed some enemies are a little different (such as the baron captain not running away when I killed his minions, and amoebas not casting heal when I nuke them with spells. Seeing as this is an alternate story I think it's fine altering things as you see fit. Not everyone would catch little changes to monster behaviors like I have, and figured I'd give you my thoughts on it.

I haven't gotten far to see much deviation yet. Also I had complaints so far, it'd be 2 of them:

First: I find npcs block my path a lot, and it's especially annoying when it's a one corridor hallway inside a house making me have to stand over to the side and wait. Granted this happens in other games too, but it is still annoying.

Second: From what I can tell you removed what would be considered secret passages that were in the original game. I can understand why you did it considering that they would be hard to do (walking through black tiles and things like that). My guess is that's why you cut out walking under bridges in the underground waterway too. Still..a part of me really wanted to go into one of those waterfalls for treasure (i think this is more manageable since its just a matter of transferring maps when you walk close enough to it). Perhaps I'm mis-remembering and it was baron waterway that had those instead. Either way damycian castle is much nicer in terms of those.

Ended up typing way more than I intended, but I figured I'd mention all my thoughts up to the point I am. Overall I'm enjoying it, and I'll probably mention some more as I get farther. Also liking the encounter radar since I can use it to avoid unwanted encounters.

Edit: Found another bug. I meant to go to save, but accidentally clicked quit instead. When I hit cancel it crashed with the error: Script 'Sprite_Base" line 33: RGSSError occurred. disposed sprite. Fortunately I didn't lose much progress.

Yeah that's a disposing bug I haven't been able to fix even with the debug script I put into the game, so I'll keep working on trying to fix it. VX Ace tends to be a bit limiting in a few departments. lol Thanks for the feedback! And you're remembering it as Town of Baron's waterway I think (which you CAN get to some hidden treasure in there in the water). I did just update some of the passabilities on the tiles in that dungeon (I hate that dungeon LOL), so hopefully that'll help some. As far as using weapons as items during combat, I had a script that did just that, but it was so buggy it never worked correctly so I nixed it. Glad to hear you're enjoying the game! =)

author=kenlan
Hello.
A strange thing is in Tower of Babil,if you press escape and fail you can`t fight back then.When the bars is filled nothing happens and the enemies hits and hits until you are dead.

That is strange. Were you trying to escape during a boss or "unwinnable" encounter or just a regular enemy troop there? If just a regular enemy troop, do you remember what enemies you saw? I have it set that escape works 100% of the time (unless for boss encounters or unwinnable battles), so it should never fail.

author=Kaliesto
Whoa..you finished the project already? Well..guess it's time to download it!

(Well until everything checks out first regarding bugs).

I hope you enjoy the game! =) 2.7 is pretty much the definitive version, as most of the bugs have been ironed out. Any future versions are just going to be re-balancing some enemies and minor things like that.

author=RydiaMist

author=Sphere
Hmmm... I was thinking something along those lines, but I'll be totally honest, I'm actually very hesitant to go back into the eventing and do any more than fix reported glitches and so on and tweak a few things here and there. I have this innate fear of if I change or add more eventing to something I know that works, I'll totally screw something up in the doing of it and then I'll be up the creek for awhile LOL. I'm thinking I'm just going to have to make those battles as totally unwinnable as possible (more so they than are currently). I'm not nearly as confident in my game design skills as you or Ashiee. (I wish I was as talented as you two are =) ). I think once I've got a second completed project out there I'll feel much better about my own skillsets.

Well, in the words of a great man, talent is a pursued interest. I don't think my game is anything special, but thank you for the kind words!

As far as eventing goes, better safe than sorry is a good approach to take. That said, for this, since the win/lose branch is just a simple if statement that ends at the same place (unless you specify otherwise), it should be pretty safe to play with if you wanted, so long as you don't make the "win" branch do something wildly different that will change later events. Just having a bit of different dialogue or a reward should be pretty safe.

Alternately you could just do like a lot of old games did and just copy the lose branch into win so that the game won't break and you'll just continue on as if you lost. Heck, the original FF4 did this, as I found out when as a kid I grinded DRK Cecil outside Fabul to a high enough level to beat Kain, and upon slapping the cocky little sh*t silly the screen faded out and Cecil proceeded to fall over.

I mostly just make this suggestion because especially with RM where people can just open the game in the editor and buff up their characters, curious people are going to want to see what happens if they win those fights. I know my first response when encountering an unwinnable fight in a RPG is to reload my save and grind until I can beat the guy, and if the fight is REALLY cheesy, to say "well the game cheated, so I will too"! Just copypasting the "if lose" branch will at least stop these people from completely breaking the game.

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Leon in Tales of Destiny is a great example of this, if you're familiar with the game. Usually he kills you in seconds, but if you either cheat, grind, or cheese him with consumable items, you can win. In this case though, the developers actually added a secret ending upon beating him, that basically states that your characters went on to have their run of the world because nothing could possibly beat them. Not that I'd ever suggest going to THAT much trouble!

You BEAT Kain?! Yeah I'm not nearly as hardcore as that LOL. I just go with the flow of the game, I never try to break it or buff up my characters artificially through the editor even if it's a RPG Maker game lol. I don't think I took gamebreakers into account when I made the game heh. I'll keep that in mind for the next one, though. I'm going to take your advice and just copy the 'lose' branch to the 'win' branch, so that my bases are covered. Thanks Rydia!

author=RydiaMist
You might just want to consider having your "Unwinnable" battles have something happen if the player does win, rather than worry about making them absolutely unwinnable.

I have a couple of optional win battles in my game, and if the player wins they're given an item of some sort for winning. The enemy will then usually have some sort of dialogue acknowledging that they lost the battle proper, but it doesn't matter because cutscene power (LoB is pretty tongue in cheek, so I wouldn't word it exactly like that, haha), and they bust out some attack in the cutscene which knocks the party out and the scene proceeds as normal.

I was going to report the same issues with the bridge battle and the Lodestone Cavern, but seems you're already on top of them.

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Thanks for the plug in the "RMN Room"! If you didn't elsewhere though, might want to give Ashiee a shout out too, as a lot of the stuff you used was her work~

Hmmm... I was thinking something along those lines, but I'll be totally honest, I'm actually very hesitant to go back into the eventing and do any more than fix reported glitches and so on and tweak a few things here and there. I have this innate fear of if I change or add more eventing to something I know that works, I'll totally screw something up in the doing of it and then I'll be up the creek for awhile LOL. I'm thinking I'm just going to have to make those battles as totally unwinnable as possible (more so they than are currently). I'm not nearly as confident in my game design skills as you or Ashiee. (I wish I was as talented as you two are =) ). I think once I've got a second completed project out there I'll feel much better about my own skillsets.