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author=Marrend
Maybe Frans's not "eating" homework at all? Maybe she's trying, in her own particular way, to call attention to her plight?


There's got to be a better way to do that than fucking with the grades of school kids.
I don't like to just sit and watch detective shows i like to try to solve them while i watch and one of my theories before the eating thing came up was that it was an unintentional side effect of whatever trapped her in there now i have a little more info and if you still exclude the eating then my theory would now be that it's a completely unintentional by product of her search for the key
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Perhaps I'm over-analyzing again, but I'm now thinking about how the missing homework is never found. If Fran's purpose was to merely get attention, would they not show up somewhere eventually? If they don't show up, what did happen to them?

I dunno. For whatever reason, I guess I was attempting to move away from the theory of Fran eating at homework, but I guess it's not happening.
could paper make it across the void? also that could be left up to the players to make guesses thats half the fun of a scifi mystery is coming p with your own theories
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I seem to be at a really good stopping point with the production of Fran. The playtesting checked out well enough, though, I am a little worried about the sequence where Masako tries to explain about Fran, and her appetite. One may obtain the latest version of Fran here.

In any event, I'm definitely taking a break from Fran's development for a while, as December is always a rather... interesting month.
sounds good marrend i need a little help with yokos clean route if you go see why shes running you don't learn about the experiments but you still call them experiments the next time you see her any ideas on how to fix this?

Edit nevermind i found a simple way

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much. I've been working on some other projects and having writer's block and various things. Anyway, two things I wanted to bring up.

1) I started an LP of the game on Broken Forum. I'm doing Junko's route (because I'm super vain), so feel free to check it out and even comment if you want. Hopefully this will get the game some more publicity. :)

2) I'm thinking of doing a Junko 2.0 at some point, with added content and fixed mistakes, since I've noticed some things I don't like about her route and I also think it would be a good exercise to get the creative juice's flowing again. Dozen, do you have a copy of Ryoko's sprites that I can have? I'd like to add them to the event that she shows up in on Junko's route. Her profile might be helpful too (or at least the ID you are using for her), so that there's not duplication of Ryoko, but it's not necessary. Is there some sort of workaround I can use so that she won't get introduced twice, but we'll still be able to see events in both the routes?

I could make a condition that says you wouldn't get the event if you had already got the Ryoko's introduce event and then comment it out so it wouldn't mess up Junko's route and make a duplicate of the event (also commented out) that doesn't introduce her that you can only get if she's already been introduced, but that would require me to get at more of your files in order to know file names and story names and such, so I'm not sure you want that.

Of course, none of this would matter if you could only get Ryoko's first event if you'd already seen the one for the Junko route, in which case only I would have to introduce her, but I don't really know exactly what you're planning, so if you could let me know so we could figure something out, that'd be great.
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Nice screenshot LP so far, Nekochi!

By-the-by, I'm reminded that I had this odd idea that I wanted to do a proper character review at some point...
author=Nekochi
Dozen, do you have a copy of Ryoko's sprites that I can have? I'd like to add them to the event that she shows up in on Junko's route. Her profile might be helpful too (or at least the ID you are using for her), so that there's not duplication of Ryoko, but it's not necessary.
As it is natural. The link is included in the priv message I sent you. The profile is not completely ready yet and could be faulty, for which I apologize.
A little background: I gave Ryoko a few positive qualities so someone might actually like her, and more depth to her vileness, since in all honesty I flat-out refuse to publish an archetypical mancrazy alpha bitch. (I'm elitist like that, bite me).
In her (very, very corrupted) core, she's devilishly evil(emphasis on devilishly, she plays by rules), bigoted in every possible nonracial way, has a massive(if justified) ego and loves to mess with with other people, especially if they 'deserve' it by being different. So far, so bad.
Her redeeming side would include her temperance, chastity (in the seven-virtues sense of the words; her sucking up to Masashi is both a part of an elaborate trick and an opporturnity to flip Junko off), some love fantasies sticking around from her childhood, and treating the player like a human...ish being, if he's to her liking.
Most importantly, when their relationship starts to bloom, she will be given a lesson, by herself, on how not quite superior she is, where we will make use of the embarrassed tachie that Nyoho was kind to share with us. I have quite enough memories and frustration to channel onto those parts, they should end up good enough>:)
author=Nekochi
Is there some sort of workaround I can use so that she won't get introduced twice, but we'll still be able to see events in both the routes?
There is!:) It's quite simple really, and only have to be done once per intro minus one. You can check the Built-in files to see how it works.
author=Nekochi
but I don't really know exactly what you're planning, so if you could let me know so we could figure something out, that'd be great.
Sticking to the original theme, I had and will have the player meet Ryoko when she's torturing her mentally challenged classmates(That would be Jun, Keika and Kyouki) and similar setups, to keep the experience "authentic"(by which I mean to extablish at start just how much of a dickcheese she is, of course). One such event is halfway ready, you can have it if you want.
author=Dozen
A little background: I gave Ryoko a few positive qualities so someone might actually like her, and more depth to her vileness, since in all honesty I flat-out refuse to publish an archetypical mancrazy alpha bitch. (I'm elitist like that, bite me).

Actually, I was hoping you'd give her some redeeming traits, since there has to be some reason that Junko saw her as a friend (her best friend, even) in the first place. (Besides, one dimensional characters are boring.)

author=Dozen
her sucking up to Masashi is both a part of an elaborate trick and an opporturnity to flip Junko off

I'm interested to see what you mean by this. Does this mean you aren't going to have her like Masashi at all? Because that was a large part of what I originally concieved as her character, but then, my version of Ryoko was flat and lifeless, so you're welcome to diverge from it if you have other plans. I'm also interested in why she wanted to flip Junko off (and why she chose to use Masashi, of all people, to do so, since Junko can't stand him.) Is it just because Junko started to push her away or was there also some jealous involved because Junko is better at track than her (remember that it was established in the Junko event she comes from that Ryoko's on the track team)?

author=Dozen
Sticking to the original theme, I had and will have the player meet Ryoko when she's torturing her mentally challenged classmates(That would be Jun, Keika and Kyouki) and similar setups, to keep the experience "authentic"(by which I mean to extablish at start just how much of a dickcheese she is, of course). One such event is halfway ready, you can have it if you want.

I don't think mentally challenged is the correct term to use and it sounds a little insensitive to use it like that, truthfully. You might say different or weird or troublesome instead? In any case, I'd love to look at the event, if it's okay with you.
author=Nekochi
Actually, I was hoping you'd give her some redeeming traits, since there has to be some reason that Junko saw her as a friend (her best friend, even) in the first place. (Besides, one dimensional characters are boring.)
I'm glad we found common ground:)
author=Nekochi
I'm interested to see what you mean by this. Does this mean you aren't going to have her like Masashi at all?
Yes. She is not interested in Masashi; he's an asset, a mean to start rumors, which she can make a wide variety of uses of. Also, while my version Ryoko is not particularly intelligent(Kyouki is smarter than her, for one), she has a quite a lot of know-how and wisdom to realize Masashi's true nature. She just as disgusted by him as Junko is, if not more.

author=Nekochi
I'm also interested in why she wanted to flip Junko off.
A more fitting phrasing of the query would be 'Why wouldn't she want to flip her off?'. Like I said, Ryoko likes messing with people. She takes joy in the suffering of others, there's no better way to put it. She might not do it if she had a reason to hold back, but Junko is not her friend anymore. With that, the jealusy, the rumors spreading around which Jun didn't deny, and how weird she started to act, Ryoko considers her a valid target.
author=Nekochi
(and why she chose to use Masashi, of all people, to do so, since Junko can't stand him.)
An interesting question. Why, did it not work? I'd say it did like a charm;) Ryoko knows Jun. She knew she'd be hurt by her former friend stabbing her in the back, which she did by siding with whom they both consider a horrible person instead of her. With that, Ryoko has shown she holds the womanizer, selfish Masashi in higher exteem than her top dog-turned rebel weirdo "friend", which is exacty why Junko was hurt, I take it.
author=Nekochi
I don't think mentally challenged is the correct term to use and it sounds a little insensitive to use it like that, truthfully. You might say different or weird or troublesome instead?
And here you go, breaking your own aesop... Dissapointing. Nekochi, while I don't hold the right to refer to my kin as I feel like it, don't you think I might have a better idea what 'different' people consider offensive and what not? But since you could use a real expanation, there you have one!
In my earlier years especially, but also these days on the occasion, I'm escorted to places I'm going to show up at a regular basis by a friend or a family member who tell those in charge of my condition. For a long time - totally disregarding what I asked them to do, by the way - they too avoided 'insensitive terms' in order to 'protect my feelings'. Nevermind I know exactly what they mean by what they dressed up to make it resemble a compliment, or that I'm reminded of my condition in every wake moment anyway no matter what. What they didn't realize on their own was that, if you downplay a madman's condition, others will think he's less of a madman.
By beating around the bush(which you dislike yourself, if I recall Junko's route correctly and I may dare to assume the same of you) and referring to me as 'troubled', 'different', 'special' and a lot of other words that make me vomit by now, instead of just flat out telling them 'he's hyperactive and histrionic', 'mentally challenged' or just plainly 'insane', people thought of me as an eccentric loner or a sensitive artist at worst, not the primodial chaos shaped into human form that Cluster B Personality Disorders produce. And that of course ended with me being thrown out or rejected in short notice every single time. You try hearing 'get out of here, you retard', 'go hole up in a crazy ward, fuckwad' 'look at the weirdo, he's so funny' and other real, meant insults every day of your life because of those who were supposed to help you, and we'll see what you consider insensitive. All of this can be avoided by people paying more attention to usor being told to leave in peace before it happens, not by defending our mental well-being from nonexistent blows.
After a long struggle I managed to blew their little bubble of conformity by making them realize a word does not become bad by having a use as a derogatory term - That makes as much sense if black people called each other nigger or something and some idiots thought they have self-hatred issues. We're all mature enough here to not hurt each other with swear words, we can all look up the definition of 'mentally challenged' if we want to, I very well know it fits all three of those girls and consider it degrading to my intelligence when you suggest otherwise. I'm sorry, but their hardships and suffering won't get any better if bury your head in the sand and act like it's not as bad as it looks. Keika's not sane, Kyouki's definitely not sane, and without the player's help, Junko is on the way of permanently becoming the worst of them with the stress she's under before psychs could cry 'Remote Schizoid P.D.' in unison. And they need actual help, not baby cuddle and ignorance.

EDIT:
author=Nekochi
In any case, I'd love to look at the event, if it's okay with you.

Of course. Sorry, I was preoccupied with rambling. I'm sending it soon.
Nekochi would it be alright if i sent you a story to review later i have an interaction between yoko and junko that I think would be hilarious
I'm skimming through the LP and finding tidbits of useful feedback throughout :)
@flowerthief I did an interaction between yoko and riho but it's not fully sitting well with me and I don't know why can you take a look?

STORY 12
CONDITION = 3 DONE
PLACE = Grounds
ID = 0
Hello Yoko and what experiment are you running today.
ID = 26
SHOW LEFT
How did you know it was me?
ID = 0
I don't know of anyone else that would randomly jump on my back.
ID = 26
Aw so I'm special?
ID = 0
Please be careful you could throw some one's back out doing that.
ID = 26
Then how about I give you a kiss to make it all better? Muah Muah Muah.
ID = 0
Please stop that if the wrong person sees it they will get the wrong idea.
ID = 26
That's not what you said last night when you were <b>FONDLING MY BREASTS</b>.
ID = 5
SHOW RIGHT
DISLIKE
Someone call the pervert police <player> is molesting a girl!
ID = 0
This is all a big misunderstanding I have never touched Yoko like that.
ID = 26
Yeah my honey would never molest me, though I can't say the same about me molesting him.
ID = 5
OTHER1
How can you talk about something like that in broad daylight.
ID = 0
Riho this is one fight I don't think you can win.
ID = 26
I think you are just jealous.
ID = 5
DISLIKE
Why in the world would I be jealous?!
ID = 26
Maybe because I have such a wonderful honey that I can hold and squeeze while you don't.
ID = 5
I could have him if I wanted, but why would I want a pervert like him?!
ID = 0
Wait a second don't I get a say in this?
ID = Riho & Yoko in unison
NO!!!!
ID = 0
Whatever this is making me tired so I will leave you two to your fight but next time please leave me out of it.
ERASE RIGHT
ERASE LEFT
ID = 26
You chased away my honey!
ID = 5
Your honey is a pervert and so are you!!
ID = 26
You're just repressed!!
ID = 0
(Man I can still hear them fighting. I know Yoko is only teasing me to gauge my reaction so why did it seem like she was really jealous)
ID = 26
Nice reaction there I will have to note that.
ID = 5
What?!
ID = 26
I was running a psychological experiment on you from the time you walked through those gates this morning.
ID = 5
Get back here don't walk away from me in the middle of this!!!
ID = 26
SHOW LEFT
Bye honey sorry I can't talk more I'm on the run.
ERASE LEFT
ID = 0
(I guess that explains it I wasn't the subject of this experiment.)
Hm, okay, these three lines I would personally change:

ID = 0
This is all a big misunderstanding I have never touched Yoko like that.

I'd have the player character react a little more sarcastically.

ID = 0
Riho this is one fight I don't think you can win.

I'd rewrite to make it more clear what he means.

ID = 5
I could have him if I wanted, but why would I want a pervert like him?!

I'd scratch the first part since Riho isn't the type to boast.

Other than that, maybe just a little more punctuation in the longer lines :)

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I definitely agree with the comment about punctuation. It's something triad2 could use in his posts as well.
Thanks it flows much better now. Yoko and all other projects of mine are going on hiatus for a while. I'm not in the mood to write for anyone other than Seira at the moment and even I can't stand her to be honest.
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I've been talking with KimotoDragoon on the comments section on official site about Yuu. There was also mention of seven other characters. I'm hoping this means that we can give Yuu back to it's creator, but there was also a comment by Kimoto about not having an update to Yuu until those other characters are done.

More information as this develops! Well, that's my hope, anyway!
Marrend given Shoko and Yokos budding friendship. If Yoko was accused (with overwhelming circumstantial evidence) of running a mean-spirited experiment on Mayu do you think she would defend or accuse Yoko? At first I thought she would defend her saying something like "If shoko trusts her then I do too.", but because it is Mayu that was "attacked" I thought she might defend mayu.
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If Yoko is targeting Mayu, this puts Shoko in an interesting spot. On one had, Shoko doesn't feel as comfortable with Mayu as she does Izumi or Ruri. However, she's a friend-by-proxy, if you will, through Ruri and Izumi. If there is an "understanding" between Yoko and Shoko, she might think that protecting Mayu might cause Yoko to re-consider this "understanding". In other words, Shoko might become viable target for Yoko's "experiments". Which would very probably place Shoko in exceptionally embarrassing situations.

What Shoko might not realize is that if Yoko starts targeting Shoko, Yoko would totally put herself at the risk of being faced with the other three members of Uchioniko. If they choose to utilize their supernatural powers, and repeated offenses would call for more drastic measures, you pretty much have to be Mitsuya Masako to brush that threat off.

I'm not sure if Yoko necessarily "knows" about their powers, but she might suspect that she would be faced with the other three members of Uchioniko. So, if she's feeling really curious, she might just try something on Shoko to observe the results. That's what it means to experiment. It could also lead to a very interesting scenario.

As for accusations, Shoko might indicate "Please stop this!" with her body language and gestures, but I don't think she'd outright accuse somebody of wrong-doing.