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[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
author=Jeroen_Sol
I guess that makes sense.
Odd could still be gray with that roleclaim, but I agree that's probably not the case. If this game is like the last one, gray is neutral. Then claiming agent would paint a giant NK target on his back, so it'd be better to simply claim gray to ward off both lynches and nightkills.
Well, or the gray agent would say in scum chat "hey I'm gray and actually <insert name here> I'm about to claim agent" and then help scum enough to not be NK'ed, and act agenty enough to not arouse the suspicion of the other agents (or final agent in this case).
That would be a big gray play, but it doesn't seem impossible to me.
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Yeah, I think we're a little screwed now if there are 2 scum, 2 agents, and one gray agent.
If anyone in town has some wacky item to prevent Odd from being NK'ed, it feels like this would probably be the time to use it, right?
If anyone in town has some wacky item to prevent Odd from being NK'ed, it feels like this would probably be the time to use it, right?
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
oic
#Cancel
That does explain what happened to PA, and I really don't think anyone would lie about it in that way or add a fake agent name to that claim.
Also this should be obvious, but that points to Milk not being the final agent either.
You think it's weird that if someone is encountering an idea for the first time, they would use the term they had just heard used for it? Or that someone trying to appear that way wouldn't do the same?
Psy, if it's so suspicious that someone who turned out to be scum repeated something I said, why did you also repeat it?
#Cancel
That does explain what happened to PA, and I really don't think anyone would lie about it in that way or add a fake agent name to that claim.
Also this should be obvious, but that points to Milk not being the final agent either.
author=psy_wombats
Used "gray agent" first, is not agent, had a weird explanation for demon using the term.
You think it's weird that if someone is encountering an idea for the first time, they would use the term they had just heard used for it? Or that someone trying to appear that way wouldn't do the same?
Psy, if it's so suspicious that someone who turned out to be scum repeated something I said, why did you also repeat it?
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
I agree, I find it unlikely to be a coincidence. I also don't like how Odd suddenly was here the second that quote was posted, but he didn't know anything about "gray" even though quite a bit of the D2 talk was about exactly that, or how he had been mostly low-profile in the later half of D1 and into D2.
#lynch Odd
Also I find Piano's end-of-D1 and start-of-D2 posts lacking. Is it 6 votes to hammer now? And can we see the final vote tally for D1? I can't believe you're making me count things myself, and even do math!
#lynch Odd
Also I find Piano's end-of-D1 and start-of-D2 posts lacking. Is it 6 votes to hammer now? And can we see the final vote tally for D1? I can't believe you're making me count things myself, and even do math!
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Wow lotsa ninja.
A clear hint in the main game would signal to any eavesdropper just as well. Although it's possible the idea was that MAYBE no one would pick up on it?
A clear hint in the main game would signal to any eavesdropper just as well. Although it's possible the idea was that MAYBE no one would pick up on it?
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
I don't like that all. Once we start talking about Odd, he immediately shows up. I also don't like how he apparently missed all the discussion on the term "gray agents" both days, but was clearly aware of the possibility (as in the quote Psy posted). Acting ignorant isn't a good look.
So I'll just flat out ask this way: are you an independent agent, Odd?
Are you implying you know what that signal would be for? Because that isn't clear to me, just that he was also scum? I would think that at that point he might as well just say so in scum chat instead, right?
So I'll just flat out ask this way: are you an independent agent, Odd?
author=Jeroen_Solauthor=oddRABBITIt would make sense if you were sending a signal to demonlord.
In the case that I was in fact, scum, it wouldn't make sense for me to drop such a big hint that I'm scum. Even I'm not that dumb. It was just a lucky guess?
Are you implying you know what that signal would be for? Because that isn't clear to me, just that he was also scum? I would think that at that point he might as well just say so in scum chat instead, right?
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Re:Odd, That could be a coincidence, but it would be a kind of big coincidence.
Odd also has gone pretty low-profile at this point, which is a LOT like what happened in the last mafia game. That makes me feel less than great about him.
Ozzy indicated that the existence of a traitor was hinted at, I wouldn't expect it to be different for scum. Having read read some of the first game, I thought it would be more likely to be a neutral agent.
I would guess Demon used the term I did because he was responding to me, or because he hadn't even heard about it before.
I'm actually a little surprised that Ozzy said nothing about the possibility. Presumably a lot more discussion on that topic happened in agent chat :P
Odd also has gone pretty low-profile at this point, which is a LOT like what happened in the last mafia game. That makes me feel less than great about him.
author=psy_wombatsauthor=AlaskanEmily^ I don't what this is, though. I assume demon used the term because he was explicitly warned about in his role pm as scum.
I expect Demon used the term because he wasn't familiar with the first game as much, and so used the same term I did instead of double agent.
Ozzy indicated that the existence of a traitor was hinted at, I wouldn't expect it to be different for scum. Having read read some of the first game, I thought it would be more likely to be a neutral agent.
I would guess Demon used the term I did because he was responding to me, or because he hadn't even heard about it before.
I'm actually a little surprised that Ozzy said nothing about the possibility. Presumably a lot more discussion on that topic happened in agent chat :P
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Oh, you're talking about the term? That's true, they were a double agent in the first game. I was thinking like white spy, black spy, gray spy from the comics when I said that.
I expect Demon used the term because he wasn't familiar with the first game as much, and so used the same term I did instead of double agent. I don't know what the deal with Psy is.
I expect Demon used the term because he wasn't familiar with the first game as much, and so used the same term I did instead of double agent. I don't know what the deal with Psy is.
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
I want to hear more from Cave. He said some stuff D1 that he wasn't very willing to follow up on, and I don't want to let that go just yet.
I was wishy-washy because I didn't feel like I strongly knew anything yet. What I was most certain of (Ozzy's logic for claiming) was clearly wrong too, Ozzy was an actual agent.
I also still stand by what I said before, until we see the epic battle saxophone again we can't really confirm Psy or Fomar. And while I agree with LockeZ, I really don't like explanations that leave you an out like that, I also don't yet think it's impossible that's how the item works, or that it fell into the hands of scum afterwards.
I knew about the possibility of a gray agent (which we still don't know exists) because I read some of the original Spy v. Mafia game, where that came up pretty quickly.
I was wishy-washy because I didn't feel like I strongly knew anything yet. What I was most certain of (Ozzy's logic for claiming) was clearly wrong too, Ozzy was an actual agent.
I also still stand by what I said before, until we see the epic battle saxophone again we can't really confirm Psy or Fomar. And while I agree with LockeZ, I really don't like explanations that leave you an out like that, I also don't yet think it's impossible that's how the item works, or that it fell into the hands of scum afterwards.
author=Jeroen_Sol
However, I did see something interesting:
author=AlaskanEmily
Also wouldn't a gray agent be possible (or even more likely) instead of an outright traitor, too?
Emily mentioned the term gray agent before demon and Psy did.
I knew about the possibility of a gray agent (which we still don't know exists) because I read some of the original Spy v. Mafia game, where that came up pretty quickly.
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