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[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
Also though...are we sure that the watcher ability of kitten's works voting? I thought those usually just worked on abilities...
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
Welp, I can't say I'm too surprised it turned out this way. I don't really have anything left to say about it, either. Scum probably was one of the less visible posters D3, watching as this worked perfectly.
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[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=ivoryjones
And that goes to emily too! I've made pretty much my points on you - so why aren't you giving us any of your scum reads?? If you're town surely you'd feel strongly on one of the other players (and I believe it's not just me or ozzy who thinks you're scum rn) who are trying to jump on my bandwagon on you!!
I said earlier that I don't have any strong scum reads. And I kind of still don't have any great reads.
Fomar is probably my strongest read, which isn't all that strong to be honest. It's convenient how he got ninja'ed and hit the hammer, and his posts generally feel a bit off to me, but I'm not convinced either of those things are all that important. He absolutely could have been actually ninja'ed/not known the vote count, and I might just not know him enough to think that his posts really are strange or not.
I am generally in favor of a PA lynch. His playstyle makes it very hard to get any kind of good read (I've given up thinking his actions have deeper meaning, especially in D1). If he is the final scum, then like...what kind of tell would we even be looking for at this point?
Other than that, all I can do is make guesses. The Shinan NK did an excellent job of giving everyone something big to talk about that has little to do with the actual remaining scum. If I was just going to guess, then whoever has mostly just stayed mostly under the radar and posted rarely D3 would also be suspicious to me.
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=ivoryjones
I've just explained why. If scum couldn't talk during day phase, they had no way of believing why we should only havd 1-shots even though when psy claimed, he claimed to have 2. If you were scum wouldn't you get suspicious why psy had 2 but the others 1-shot? It could be a bluff from kitten so she could protect confirmed town as well. It doesn't confirm/deny us but it definitely gave scum some red flags.
Interesting. I initially thought that when Psy said he was 2-shot that Cave had been a little lazy with balancing given all the combinations, and so there would be a bunch of tweaking ammo. Given his death message though, I doubt he ever was 2-shot, and it was an ill-conceived attempt to make the role somehow seem less suspicious.
author=tale
About your thoughts on third scum being a new player- don't you think it's too soon to make such claim?
I'm not saying it must be true. Just that I think it more likely than not.
author=tale
How does it help with getting PA lynch going when there's a connection on you with piano and shinan votes.
My interaction with Libery/ Psy and vote cancelled are coincidence too.
I don't think any of the direct interactions between you and the confirmed scum came across as extremely scummy. The only connection I see is how Liberty was trying so hard to help new players. It could have been a coincidence though.
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=tale
emily, I want to follow up with piano's accusation of you but I don't sure how to approach it. I'm okay with questions that I can answer but is it any different when facing opposing side?
If you have questions, go ahead and ask.
author=ivoryjones
If we go by the assumption that scum couldn't communicate with each other during the day phase, there was no way for them to confirm if either me or kitten only had 1-shots. As psy died D1, his flavor upon death did not confirm nor deny his claim being 2-shots only. Hence scum being on fence on lynching one of us. Scum can't risk getting a no kill again, hence, going after the most logical option (as mentioned above).
I don't understand the significance of this. How would being able to communicate in the day phase confirm/deny you or kitten being 1 shot?
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=tale
Emily, what sort discussion were you expecting before lynch happened in D2?
Usually I would want to wait because more information and more interaction usually benefits town. I would want to have heard more from Piano, even though I thought he was scum, because when he flipped town I could trust his suspicions were at least made in good faith.
I'm aware that doesn't sound great for me since most of what he got to say was about why he thought I was scum. Although he did cancel his vote on me, so...I guess make of that what you will.
author=tale
Do you think you could answer my suspicions at the time if I'm ready?
I'm sorry I don't understand, what do you mean?
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
Also wow, I just completely quoted the wrong thing. What I meant was:
OK, that makes sense. Thank you.
author=Fomar0153author=AlaskanEmilyI thought I was fourth to lynch when I posted, I missed PlatinumAshes's vote, Ozzy had said about starting the mob and I didn't check back far enough, in the time I was counting the votes you had also voted to lynch him and I didn't refresh before posting.
Fomar, Can I ask why you hammered Piano?
At the time I was ok with lynching either PA or Piano and it was falling to Piano so I voted that way.
OK, that makes sense. Thank you.
[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over
author=Fomar0153author=OzzyTheOneThanks for clearing that up, the rules weren't really clear on that.
@Fomar and independent either wins alongside town or alongside scum, their only win condition is to survive till end of game. Then again, I doubt there's an independent in this game, because the game rules say there's 10 town and 3 scum, so we can scratch independent off our list. I was just pointing out how Odd's role could be an independent role.
OK, that makes sense. Thank you.
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