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[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Alright, I'll put a vote on demon. I said before he seems a bit different now. I'm not convinced he is definitely scum, but sadly that's the best read I have.
I do agree the bandwagoning isn't a good look, and the way it was phrased was unfortunate at best. He also keeps ignoring the no-nolynch part of the rules, which I guess could just be that he hasn't noticed it, but it also means his reason sounds like it could be an excuse. Especially since his style was usually to be a tad focused on rules, and so you would expect that he would have really read the first post.
#lynch Demon
I do agree the bandwagoning isn't a good look, and the way it was phrased was unfortunate at best. He also keeps ignoring the no-nolynch part of the rules, which I guess could just be that he hasn't noticed it, but it also means his reason sounds like it could be an excuse. Especially since his style was usually to be a tad focused on rules, and so you would expect that he would have really read the first post.
#lynch Demon
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Unless the battle tuba comes back up, I'm not going to agree that Psy is confirmed town. We don't yet know that it really does get transferred to another player on use until then.
While it would be very dumb for scum to use the war tuba if it would come back, it's plausible to me that it could be just a high risk/high reward play by scum if it only works once.
We need to see it again to really know.
I was/still am a little skeptical, but Ozzy didn't strike me as very scummy to begin with.
I do think it's the most likely that Ozzy is a double agent though. To me that squares better with an early claim, especially (thought not necessarily) if he also told scum he would do so.
I'm not going to vote based on that, since it's wild speculation. But I'm going to keep it in mind.
While it would be very dumb for scum to use the war tuba if it would come back, it's plausible to me that it could be just a high risk/high reward play by scum if it only works once.
We need to see it again to really know.
author=psy_wombats
I still can't believe I'm the only one not immediately whining about the bodyguard claim but w/e
I was/still am a little skeptical, but Ozzy didn't strike me as very scummy to begin with.
I do think it's the most likely that Ozzy is a double agent though. To me that squares better with an early claim, especially (thought not necessarily) if he also told scum he would do so.
I'm not going to vote based on that, since it's wild speculation. But I'm going to keep it in mind.
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
this reply doesn't really address what I said. maybe I need a translator.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
emily, it's illegal to insinuate that I am being dishonest or lying. it's hardcoded into RMN's infrastructure, actually. don't know why the bot hasn't stripped you of your privileges and marked you as an enemy of the state. probably liberty broke it
Then what didn't I address?
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
this reply doesn't really address what I said. maybe I need a translator.
OK, then I'll ask: what was it I accused you of that was illegal/ban-worthy?
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
I kind of have a feeling that Ozzy is a double agent. It feels more like a double agent play to reveal so early.
Yeah, I agree. Even if they were willing to chance a single battle tuba, since it goes to another player (or at least we were told it does...no, it probably does) it would be a really dumb scum move to use it.
author=Jeroen_Sol
I'm going to move Psy into my hard town. It would be extremely ballsy and/or stupid to use that tuba as scum. Scum would just sit on it and not even mention its existence.
Yeah, I agree. Even if they were willing to chance a single battle tuba, since it goes to another player (or at least we were told it does...no, it probably does) it would be a really dumb scum move to use it.
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
@Jeroen: Do you disagree with Psy's analysis that we should try to force a hammer before the end of the day? This is a bandwagon close to the end of the day (especially since not everyone really has that much IRL awake-time left in D1), do you not think that's a little different?
@Demon: I don't think there can be nolynch, even in a tie it becomes a coin flip.
I'll try to reread and rethink things knowing Fomar is town thanks to the battle tuba. I might or might not be able to really devote much more time to this before D1 ends though.
I am OK with a demon lynch too, I guess. I guess I'm also in disagreement with most people about whether Ozzy is scummy, but I'm not feeling anywhere near as confident in Demon as I was last game.
That's fair. Thinking about things now, my logic about hammering was pretty garbage :S
Also if I seem like I'm not posting any strong reads it's because I don't have any strong reads either. If I don't see something I can't say something. If you want to lynch me for being bad at getting reads, I guess I agree with that. This is what I got.
You are right, PA started actually playing just before I voted. He did like four real posts before I voted, one of which ninja'ed me.
@Demon: I don't think there can be nolynch, even in a tie it becomes a coin flip.
I'll try to reread and rethink things knowing Fomar is town thanks to the battle tuba. I might or might not be able to really devote much more time to this before D1 ends though.
I am OK with a demon lynch too, I guess. I guess I'm also in disagreement with most people about whether Ozzy is scummy, but I'm not feeling anywhere near as confident in Demon as I was last game.
author=psy_wombats
Don't have much to add other than that AE and PA look bad. Whoever was asking why AE was on my original hitlist was I usually can follow her reasoning but couldn't for the first part of the day. Still on it for trying to start a train away from Ozzy.
That's fair. Thinking about things now, my logic about hammering was pretty garbage :S
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
While she makes big posts, they're full of extremely hedgy fence-straddling (bad), less full of talking about mechanics (something scum tend to focus on cause they can 'play' without playing,) and she also threw shade on me for something I wasn't even trying to do (illegal and bannable offense.) The vote she does thrown down is on lurker/nonentity PA (even though she saw him doing this as town last game) but, to make it worse, he had actually started to play by the time she voted him for this reason.
Also if I seem like I'm not posting any strong reads it's because I don't have any strong reads either. If I don't see something I can't say something. If you want to lynch me for being bad at getting reads, I guess I agree with that. This is what I got.
You are right, PA started actually playing just before I voted. He did like four real posts before I voted, one of which ninja'ed me.
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Ah, OK. I had thought the agents were basically just masons, and we needed at least one to stay alive. I didn't realize there could be more to them than that, I thought only items granted abilities.
[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
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[mafia] Spy vs. Mafia II Day 3
Wow, thanks ninjas. So I guess it's 20 hours left.
...this would also make sense to me.
author=PlatinumAshes
Maybe the reason that Ozzy is different now, is that he isn't in a group chat.
Last game he would just stop by every day or so and drop this gem of perfect (more or less) logic that he and Ivory had been talking about for 3 pages. You know how many hours it took me to get through that Mason chat? Hahaha.
...this would also make sense to me.














