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Beautiful Escape: Dungeoneer Review

comment=31538
Are you going to argue that ultra-violent and/or gory games turn gamers into psychotic killers? That watching a tiny sprite explode into red pixels will scar someone's psyche? Come on, you, as a game designer, should know better!

I could be having doubts if it was an A-title with realistic graphics, realistic characters, and a realistic story, but this is just a 2K3 game with symbolic (rudimentary) graphics.

And your last argument could be countered with: "Are you saying it's okay to kill people and make their heads explode to gain virtual points (what you do in 99% of all FPS's)?" We all know the answer to that.

No, it's not, flimsy justifications are given for the actions, and many games don't necessarily state that they've been killed. When you "kill" a slime in an RPG, is it dead? Gory games are usually based on your "killing" being abstract or justified (self defense, etc) and leave those avenues somewhat unexplored.

However, we still lack ANY kind of even weak reason to allow what is obviously an unacceptable act.

"Sorry your honor, I thought she had a gun, so I had to repeatedly rape and slice her carefully so as not to kill her! In my basement. With traps and implements I purposefully bought for this purpose."

or

"These evil beasts are killing villagers, therefore I found their general and repeatedly raped her and slowly tortured the male general to teach them the error of their ways."

Is killing okay? No, not really. Should we use that as an excuse to go into acts that have NO POINT AT ALL beyond a gross self-satisfaction and aim to purposefully inflict pain on others? (To the goal of not even killing them, just breaking their mind and taking away their self.)

EDIT: So, since so many games allow killing, and that's bad, it's okay to allow torture and rape? You know, for the people that are okay with that stuff?

Beautiful Escape: Dungeoneer Review

comment=31536
Then you must be having problems distinguishing between reality and fiction. I watch horror movies all the time and am one of the most peaceful people I know. This argument is old and tired.

Anyhow - I knew what the rating would be after reading the first paragraph. I see that you're one of the people that review genres they hate only so that they can safely rate it as low as possible. OK. I will now go write a review of a racing game and complain that there's too many cars in there. And I hate cars. */*****

tl:dr
This review is not worth shit.

There is a large difference between watching a gory or horror movie, and actually taking those actions yourself, even in a simulated environment. Do you really believe that people aren't affected by this? That things like this don't shape a person like all the other events in their life? "One sec, turning off my learning switch here... okay! Now no matter what I watch or choose to do it won't affect my growth or personality. I am just that awesome."

Are you saying it's okay to perform torture and rape so long as it's simulated?

Bad enough we've become fairly desensitized to killing thanks to it being the main method of enterainment in games, but usually those are attempted with justification (weak as they are) - such as war, them being evil monsters, them not really dying just being knocked unconscious, etc.

But what (even flimsy) justification is there to torture or rape people?

Beautiful Escape: Dungeoneer Review

I'll say this outright, I never played this, I hadn't planned to. I'm a family man, I grew up with fairly strict morals. Even in a game I don't go forcibly torturing people, I limit my kids exposure to violent games until their older, and I know how desensitized people have become.

I figured this game was about basic torture, and that was bad enough, but I kept my comments to myself.

But:
1. "One of them is a pretty young kindergarten teacher with a disabled husband."
2. You can strip them naked and RAPE them.

I'm sorry, but anyone who can play this game and not feel deeply disturbed and shut it off when those kinds of situations has problems.

How long until it's okay to kill a stranger walking past your house, drape his innards on a tree, and everyone in the neighborhood comes and applauds and comments how creative you are?

Maybe it's because I'm a dad, or maybe I was just brought up with severely different morals, but stuff like this is just wrong on every level I can imagine.

@Calunio: Sorry, your ideas are definitely unique, and I figured walking the border was just your style, I thought a slasher/torture kind of game was a bit far, but figured you'd do it with style like usual. This... this is just a bit too far out there.

Game Pet Peeves

post=139628
My game pet peeve is calling SMT games hard when 90% of the difficulty comes from withholding the player information or surprises that cannot be reacted to


This is so true it hurts.

Game Gale 2010

comment=31080
What the!

Why isn't my game listed? :V

It's because I submit to the site, NOT to the event. w00t!

Which WIP fixed with magical site admin powers.