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A.I. Generation and RMN
JosephSeraph
I'm ambivalent as well, but I think it's cool RMN as a website has the ability to take a stance towards this
Seeing the benefit of smaller spaces when it comes to this topic lately has been interesting. I'm glad at least that the scant few places I hang out online and submit content to have taken a line against it, at least. Definitely helps that oppressive/depressive feeling seeing AI content flood everywhere can sometimes bring to an artist (at least for me).
Hexatona
The blurriest of blurred lines will always be free content, though. It's like letting a nice guy wearing a black eagle into your bar. He's fine. He brings a friend. They're nice. And then you look up and suddenly you're a Nazi bar. And, I don't want this to become a place where AI trash outnumbers the regular creative trash :P
This feels an apt comparison based on what I've seen in a lot of places, esp image hosting sites. They let it happen and then all of a sudden half the posts in your feed are AI shit. It's just depressing to look at, annoying to have to block the tags all the time and wonder if one is untagged or something (because people inevitably start tagging specific AI engines and not generically), and its especially bad if tag blocking just blurs the thumbnail or something instead of taking it off of your feed.
Seeing that happen here, where we don't even have the frameowkr (iirc) to put blanket tag blocks on what we see, would be a shame imo.
A.I. Generation and RMN
Marrend
Maybe there will be a time when rips will be disallowed for new game submissions. However, as stated earlier, they are kinda part of the site's DNA, and retroactively denying games that used them would cull a lot from the site's library. We even have a thread dedicated for people to seek out the old, and obscure RPG Maker games. I can almost guarantee there are games listed there that have rips. Should we lock the thread, and move it into Archives if rips ever become illegal on this site?
This is off topic, and I guess makes me a bit of a hypocrite due to circumstance, but I think it would be pretty much impossible to impose the rule in the same way if it ever came to be. The "problem" is too far gone and too pervasive to be fixed by simple black and white means like that. Just an artifact of time.
Besides, like I mentioned already, the community is pretty well moving away from that anyways as time goes on, so it's something that will eventually be either socially unaccepted or just a part of the history of RM culture.
For the idea of AI being built into certain tools, I think the "good faith" argument does come into play, but it's also a situation where responsibility and impact is more removed in certain cases. It's like... Many people wouldn't kill an animal themselves, but they'll still eat meat, and those aren't necessarily contradictory things.
AI being used to create entire assets, code, or writing is a more blatant sort of... replacement? It's more "morally repugnant" to people because it's very obvious and direct. Nobody thinks the same of using something like a re-scaling tool or a program that automatically checks code, because the overall input is still human, if that makes sense? Its sort of like the effective difference between a machine totally replacing a human job versus just making it easier and more efficient. That distinction is still obvious nowadays. Perhaps in the future it won't be, I dunno.
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JS, this may be one of the most beautiful map screenshots on the entire site. This is just, it's SUCH a look. I adore it.
They Walk Among Us
Part of me really wants to do this, but another part knows that I never finish event games...
then another part entirely asks how the hell I'd make any real paranormal event into a game
E: Frogge I am sorry, I thought it was public when I saw the name change and shit
then another part entirely asks how the hell I'd make any real paranormal event into a game
E: Frogge I am sorry, I thought it was public when I saw the name change and shit
A.I. Generation and RMN
author=Sidewinder
If a gamepage is accepted and the game conforms to RMN's rules at the time it was uploaded, but then a later rule makes it illegal, that's kind of another issue entirely.
I mean, what's the alternative? Never updating the rules? They have to do the best they can to adapt, things are going to evolve and change over time and reacting is the only way to manage it.
Besides, the pages aren't destroyed or just like immediately deleted, the people have a chance to adapt to the rules and make that decision themselves.
A.I. Generation and RMN
I mean I'd love to see a day when rips also weren't allowed, but it;s not a grey area as I described because there's literally a rule about what is and isn't permissible, even if it's somewhat informal. Besides that, the fact that the community has been gradually moving away from that mindset for years and years now while promoting creator-made assets, freeware stuff, etc, makes an outright ruling less necessary.
If rips were suddenly becoming a big thing right now as AI is I would expect the policy to be the same as what's happening here, and it would be just as justified. The fact that its so baked into the DNA of the community means that we can't do anything retroactively at this point, is all. Getting out ahead of the next issue before it becomes ingrained is just smart.
Yes, god forbid you just make your own content or collaborate with other people, something this site has pushed and supported for like more than a decade at this point
If rips were suddenly becoming a big thing right now as AI is I would expect the policy to be the same as what's happening here, and it would be just as justified. The fact that its so baked into the DNA of the community means that we can't do anything retroactively at this point, is all. Getting out ahead of the next issue before it becomes ingrained is just smart.
I don't trust RMN any more. I've privated all my gamepages, and I have absolutely no intention of ever uploading any games in the future. You're not going to convince me.
Yes, god forbid you just make your own content or collaborate with other people, something this site has pushed and supported for like more than a decade at this point
A.I. Generation and RMN
It's sort of the same thing on RMN, though, isn't it? A denied page is still extant, just can't be viewed publicly. It would work the same if an accepted game suddenly posted content that broke the rules, at least I'm pretty sure it would.
Being that it was a grey area in the rules before, it's not really the same as randomly deciding something that was outright accepted suddenly isn't allowed any more.
Being that it was a grey area in the rules before, it's not really the same as randomly deciding something that was outright accepted suddenly isn't allowed any more.
A.I. Generation and RMN
Very proud of RMN being one of the few creatively geared sites I know of to do the right thing and outright ban that nonsense. Protecting actual artists and their work, and encouraging people to actually learn fun and useful skills or collaborate with other creators.
damn having a wife and kids and a fulltime job sucks when can i make games
I have a full time job and an art commitment and haven't touched a game dev program in more than a month, so I'm sorry, with even more than me it's terminal
pull the plug, end the suffering
pull the plug, end the suffering














