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Vacant Sky Vol. 1: Contention
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
You should probably not try to argue about the technicalities of programming if you don't know anything about what you're talking about.
(Also, technically speaking, there is nothing in the EULA against breaking the trial version limitations as long as you do it with scripting. However, RMW will probably still ban you for trying, because it's against their rules (which are distinct from the EULA).)
(Also, technically speaking, there is nothing in the EULA against breaking the trial version limitations as long as you do it with scripting. However, RMW will probably still ban you for trying, because it's against their rules (which are distinct from the EULA).)
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Just so everyone knows, it's illegal to use these in RMXP/VX/Ace unless you own a legal license to RM2k, so keep that in mind if you were considering using these in a commercial work.
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
You're correct that once the EULA is broken, the license to use the software is automatically terminated. You're also required at that point to either send the software back to Enterbrain or send them a written letter certifying that you have destroyed it - an amusing example of how no one at the software companies actually ever cares enough to enforce these things to the letter, and you probably shouldn't take them too seriously.
"Your Honor, I was aware that I was illegally using software to make my product, but I just figured that, since the EULA is kind of, y'know, silly, that that might make it okay to ignore it and flagrantly break copyright law. I'm off the hook, right?"
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
Selling the game is not against the EULA
That's not how EULAs work. A EULA has to explicitly grant you the right to sell your game. Source on it saying that?
(Hell, even if you're right and patching it is illegal - I patched this version of RM2K3 on this computer in 2006. Statute of limitations has worn out for that too. Selling the game is not against the EULA, so the time limit doesn't restart again for that, right?)
Nope. You didn't break a law by patching your RM2k3 - you broke the EULA, which means you have no right to use it in any way whatsoever.
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
author=LockeZ
They've been allowing it for the last eleven years.
And no, using the patch doesn't require you to hack the software. The fact that the patch exists means someone else did, but... that was eleven years ago, and the statute of limitations for civil cases in Tokyo (where the EULA specifies that all cases related to it must be presented) is five years. So that particular hack can no longer be legally prosecuted.
"Not prosecuting" != "allowing"
And your logic doesn't hold up. By that logic, you're not infringing copyright by downloading a movie that was ripped years and years ago, since the statue of limitations on the act of ripping it has run out. You're still illegally modifying your copy of the software, even if you didn't devise the technique of doing so yourself.
Can't fight the gam mak...
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
You're correct that it's easy to argue that scripting doesn't count as reverse engineering - but could you then argue that applying the english patch does?Yes. Applying an English patch would count as reverse engineering as it requires hacking the executable. Using RM2k3 in English in any way, shape, or form is breaching the EULA and so, to answer the original question of whether or not it's allowed to sell a game made with it even if there's all original content, the answer is a resounding no.
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
author=LockeZUm, no it doesn't. Scripting is not reverse engineering, de-compiling, or disassembling the software. Those terms have specific technical meanings and programming using a public API exposed to you through the engine's interface by Enterbrain most certainly does not fall under that.
This means that, for example, technically, scripting in RPG Maker VX Ace is able to be prosecuted under the same section of the EULA.
Whether it's likely that Enterbrain will prosecute you for breaking the EULA is irrelevant to the question of whether or not it's illegal. It is illegal.
RPG Maker 2003 Question of Legalities
author=LockeZ
If you buy the engine, in any language, you get a license to sell any games made in it. Enterbrain still sells RM2K3 on their Japanese website.
If you don't buy the engine, then no, you can't distribute games that use it.
The "YOU CANNOT USE THE ENGLISH PATCH OR DYNRPG OR ANYTHING THAT CHANGES THE ENGINE AT ALLLLLL" thing is a myth, though. I understand why people think that, but Enterbrain allows people to use that stuff.
Source?
I can almost guarantee you that that is not in fact a myth. All of the modern RMs explicitly forbid messing with the engine whatsoever. It's a pretty standard clause in EULAs and is probably present in 2k3 as well.
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