HAVE YOU CONSIDERED BEING MORE INTERESTING?

Some thoughts on garnering an audience

  • kentona
  • 12/21/2017 06:01 PM
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Remember when simply having a finished game was enough to propel you to Rockstar Status™ in the RPG Maker community? Don't worry if you don't. That hasn't been the case for years now, maybe even a decade. But I remember. I've been around for a very long long (long) time. Too long, perhaps. So long that my opinions and advice are dated and non-applicable. But here they are anyway.


"Hey everybody, an old man is talking!"




At one point or another, as you are working on your project you posted here on rpgmaker.net, you may have wondered...

"Why aren't I getting any attention?"



A valid question.

...and...


I don't have any definitive answer.




But I do have some thoughts on it. I am going to talk a bit about RMN as a website, as a community, and the things that you could try to improve the visibility of your games. First, I will dwell on RMN itself.


RMN isn't as big as you might think
As of this month, RMN has around 400 people posting about 3000 comments a month. There are 1774 games currently in production. Even if all of the comments were on gameprofiles (they aren't) and evenly distributed, that works out to less than 2 comments per game. (But then, not all games are actively being developed. The Top 25 games generating discussion ranged between 12 and 70 comments last month. This is a better metric to measure against). Furthermore, the actively posting memberbase is largely made up of developers, with projects of their own. They are supportive, willing to help where they can, provide critique and advice, and cheer you on, but that isn't their sole focus. The makeup of the active community here is that of hobbyist developers (or former developers past their prime, like me). Take that into account as you assess your game's buzz (or lack thereof).

RMN is bigger than you might think, but in ways you don't realize
RMN still gets about 7,000 to 9,000 unique visitors a day. A fly-by audience is here, but it is going to be a largely silent one. You will see this reflected in some of the other statistics, such as pageviews, downloads and "buzz score". Some games, for example, despite not getting any comments or reviews with any real frequency, constantly find themselves "buzzing" on the frontpage due to this large audience. You veteran members of RMN will have immediately thought of the viral hit game Pom Gets Wi-Fi. (That game made huge waves at RMN in the summer of 2013 after it was played by Pewdiepie on his Youtube channel.)

The point being is that there is a large transient population visiting RMN. You game may be getting attention, but it is silent. Make note of your pageviews and subscriber counts in addition to comments when assessing whether or not you are doing well in building an audience. If you are here reading this article with concerns about your game, then it is likely that this silent transient population is in fact looking for what you are making (an indie RPG, presumably). Or maybe not...

Maybe RMN isn't the right place for your project
The R is for RPG. And RPG maker network does sound a lot like that game engine RPG Maker. People navigating to this site are going to come here with certain expectations in their mind, and if your game does not fit that mold - and, let's be honest here, that mold being a 2D top-down retro RPG - you are going to find it all the more difficult to garner an audience.

RMN is a longstanding community built by hobbyist game developers in their spare time, and carries with it the hobbyist mindset (for good or for ill). Regardless, and this has been said since the very beginning by a lot of people, RMN shouldn't be the only home of your project. It can be a home; it can be your primary home; it shouldn't be your only home. There are many avenues and options out there today to showcase your game that didn't exist a decade ago - Twitter, Tumblr, Facebook, Youtube, ... - avail yourself of them. Build your audience. Build different kinds of audiences. Don't limit yourself to a single website.





"So, what can I do?"


Have you considered being more interesting?
Very few of us game developers truly understand what audience engagement really entails. To most of us, it simply means posting a short blurb when there is an update, occasionally asking for feedback, maybe tweeting some pixel art once in a while or posting a new screenshot. Essentially, just irregular, impersonal posting.


"Boring!"


First and foremost, when trying to garner attention, strive to be more interesting. Seriously.

This applies to both how you present your work, and the work itself. Having an interesting game is obviously a key component to being "more interesting". Identify things about your work that seperates it in some way from the plethora of other games. And I don't mean necessarily "better". I mean "different", "unique", "cool". Maybe it has custom art? Maybe it has a neat game mechanic? Maybe the story challenges perceptions? Maybe this is your first game and you are giving game-making a try? All of those things are interesting. So what's cool about your game?


"That's what makes you cool, right?"


...but that's not enough.

Players come in all forms. Some like to know more about the game. Some like to know more about how the game is developed. Some like to know more about the developers behind the game. That means posting about the game, about how the game is made, and about yourself. So what's cool about you and your development of the game?

We aren't faceless AAA-game monolithic corporations. We are people. And we have a real opportunity to connect with each other on a personal level. Break out of your shell, drop the facades, reach out to people, and share yourself along with your project. That would be cool.

If that makes you a little nervous, that's okay. You aren't alone. But you really should consider sharing a bit about yourself. Building that connection with your audience is a great way to strengthen friendships, gain valuable feedback, and even set the foundation for future projects.

...but it's still not enough.

You have to commit to engagement. Being an ambassador to your game is an aspect of a successful project, and you ought to make time for it just like you do for bug fixes, testing, programming, art, or other aspects of your work. Community engagement doesn't require you to spend hours each day trying to talk to people. A few minutes per week to post about updates and ask for player feedback is a good start. Take the time to reply. The idea is to start a conversation, and not toss statements into the void.

And you will also have to become a better writer.

Humans like stories.

Think of it like this: You aren't posting an update, you are telling a story about how your game has an update. What is the theme of the update? Who are the actors involved? What is the style and tone of this delivery? Where is the struggle, the conflict, the resolution? Really think about how this story is engaging to the reader. Remember, the idea is to start a conversation. A quick status update is a poor conversation starter. Write about not only the content of the update, but how it got made, some struggles it encountered, some feedback that it still needs, and about you and what you did.

And suddenly, the games you make aren't mere games anymore. They're passion projects made by (your name here), someone who thought of the idea (your game idea here), the process by which the game came about (fill in your story here) and decided to make something special for people to enjoy. It becomes a personal thing, rather than just another anonymous contribution.

Humans like looking at neat things.

We are shallow like that.

You are going to have expend effort making sure your game looks neat. Custom art and assets will go a long way in helping you stand out. Concept art, mockups, and drafts are also good for showcasing early project work. For RPG Maker specific projects, the RTP is a grand resource (and I love it), but you will have to work doubly-hard to make projects that make use of it stand out since it is so commonly used. Your mapping will have to be top-notch or uniquely constructed, or flourished with your own person touch.

In my opinion, what you write and what you show on your gameprofile are the two most important things to gaining and maintaining an interested audience. Other aspects, like music assets, videos, and even reviews - while useful - aren't as critical and aren't what people see and consume first. And, nearly as important, is how you show your content. And I am not just alluding to how RMN allows you to customize your gameprofile with CSS. The presentation of your game is affected by the formatting of your written content (whitespace, paragraphs, scale, etc...) and the order in which it is showcased. How you present your work matters.

For example, one giant block of text is visually intimidating and uninviting. It is very offputting and the eye glazes over it. Don't post like that.

Have you tried engaging with the community in other ways?

One way to raise the profile of your game is to raise the profile of yourself. An active and contributing member of the community is more likely to get noticed and garner interest for their works. You can:

  • Participate in community events
  • Play and review other people's games
  • Leave feedback
  • Write an article or tutorial
  • Make videos
  • Make assets and resources
  • Comment more in the forums
  • Join our Discord channel
  • Follow and respond to our Twitter account


One note: striking up controversy and being a shithead will garner you attention, but the attention will be negative and in the end people will care less about your projects and passion for them. Don't be a shithead.

Have you actively promoted your game?
I am talking about marketing.


"That's my name!"


"But promoting my game makes me feel like a whore!"


You are letting decency and integrity get in the way of being noticed! But seriously, creating something you are proud of and satisfied with doesn't mean it is automatically going to be popular. You will have to get the word out.

Fear #1: I am just being annoying
I know I roll my eyes at bad games being heavily promoted. My desire to avoid being annoying in exactly that way makes me reluctant to engage in all-out marketing. When people hear about marketing they think about lying, exaggerating and other dishonest stuff. It has a negative connotation.

  • Be confident in the strengths of your game
  • Be earnest
  • Believe in yourself


Hyping is a bad idea - marketing should be authentic and honest.

Fear #2: Rejection
If you have made a game, it means that you poured something personal about yourself into that game (not to mention time, effort and energy) and, consciously or unconsciously, when it is judged you feel that you are being judged.

You can't take it personally if someone smashes your game.

Know that it is not yourself that is being judged, but rather a work by you. There could be dozens of reason why someone doesn't like a game, and none of them could have to do with who you are as a person. (And if they are saying that, then that person is a shithead. Ignore them.) But don't let a fear of rejection stop you from putting your game out there.


"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."



So here are some things you can do:

  • Contact Reviewers and Lets Players. Believe it or not, there are people out there who want to play games. Check out RMN's Review Request or list of Reviewers/Feedbackers/LPers/etc. RMN also periodically hosts review drives - keep an eye out. There are also reams of LPs posted on RMN. Consider watching them and directly contacting an LPer you like and asking them to play your game.
  • Promote other people. If marketing yourself and your game still makes you feel icky, try instead to market and recommend other peoeple's game. The lack of a personal connection to the work makes it much easier to promote someone else's game. Perhaps others will return the favour to you?
  • Blog Consistently. Set up a schedule you think you can handle, and make a reminder in your calendar to do this. And curate a small backlog of posts. If there is ever an extraordinarily busy time, you will be glad that you had a good blog post on hand so that you are not falling behind or rushing something out. (Don't write too far ahead, though, lest you start writing dated content).
  • Create a Twitter/Facebook/Website/Social Media account(s) for your game. #gamedev and #ScreenshotSaturday are your friends. Look them up. Also, hit up @rpgmaker now and again. I hear the account manager is a total pushover and will retweet your work.
  • Consider linking in the IndieGaming subreddit. It is a good place to link your YouTube trailers, preview, reviews and game demos.
  • Keep things current. It's worse to have a grossly outdated Facebook page and website than none at all. Only make accounts that you think you can handle.
  • Start when you have something worth showing. Begin your marketing campaign the moment you have something that illustrates the fundamental mechanics and look of your game.



"How can RMN help?"



Review Request thread. Ask for reviews here.
Comprehensive List of Reviewers/Feedbackers/LPers/LTers/Play Testers/etc thread. Look for people to play your game.
Whatchu Workin' On? Tell us! thread, for posting quick updates.
Screenshot Survival 20XX thead, for posting and getting feedback on screenshots and videos.
What are you thinking about? (game development edition) thead, for posting general thoughts and ideas on game development and game mechanics.
New Developer Mapping Help Thread for making your RPG Maker maps look snazzy!
Let's work on your game descriptions! A thread for getting help and feedback on your gameprofile's game description.
CSS'ing Your RMN Game Profile An article on how to make a cool looking gameprofile using CSS.
@rpgmaker The official http://rpgmaker.net twitter account (unofficially awful)

If you don't think you can do it...


Also, I hear that if you ask kentona nicely, he will put a banner up on RMN for your commercial game's launch/kickstarter.


"Yes, yes. You are very wise. Anything else?"


First impressions can really affect how much attention your project gets.
It's probably not a good idea to create a gameprofile until you have enough content to keep your project buzzing. I am very guilty of posting a gameprofile early - I crave the attention and feedback. But it has inevitably backfired every time I posted too early. I didn't have the content or backlog of material to keep interest up and the projects fizzled and failed to reach their (even limited) potential.


A good title is good.
One underestimated aspect of marketing is the importance of a game's title. While first impressions of a game such as screenshots, descroptions, videos, reviews, scores, and so on are very important, it is likely that the very first way in which an audience will 'interact' with a game is via its title. When a person is simply browsing through games or forum posts, a catchy title or a well-formed title can make the difference between if that person decides to read up more on the game or to simply glance over it as one in a list of hundreds/thousands.

A separate article could be written on naming your game. (You should write one!)




Luck. So much fucking luck.
Getting noticed is a lot like a lottery. You can improve your odds of getting noticed, but that is not a guarantee. Sometimes you just get lucky and your project sparks something at the right time with the right people. And sometimes it doesn't.

Lastly, making games is something you are doing for you. Try not to get so hung up on popularity.



"Now let's all celebrate with a cool glass of turnip juice."



(Bonus round extra last point: I don't know what I am doing.)

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Oh hey, a famous person posted an article, I'll check it out!

This is my second main weakness (probably the most impactful of the two) - but since making games is merely self-fulfillment for me, I would rather spend the time making games than advertising or being interesting, and if that means minimal attention and being mostly unknown, I have no regrets!

You need to paste a link to this article in that "is the RTP bad?" thread instead of your supremely helpful "No." answer that helped spawn so much quality discussion! :)

As soon as I'm done with one project I'm on to the next so fast I almost don't bother posting them; I'm already neck deep in the next one (two?) with a shiny new tool I've grown fond of and that I hope will solve my most frustrating weakness.

And I do remember the days when a completed game made waves in and of itself, I didn't realize I'd get so much attention for my first game years before RMN was even in development; just because I had finished a game for a contest.
THANK YOU KENTONA FOR MENTIONING LUCK AS A DETERMINING FACTOR FOR GETTING YOUR GAME NOTICED (TT‿TT)

Everybody I've come across told me that what you need to get noticed is effort, but I always knew that, aside from effort, you also need luck since it's impossible to know if you'll hit the target with things like when to release your gameprofile or when to release the full game or stuff like that. And even then it might take some time, maybe even years, for your game to be noticed (like what happened with OFF, for example). So yeah, effort is important but HECK, luck is also important in stuff like this.
author=Kent
RMN is bigger than you might think, but in ways you don't realize
RMN still gets about 7,000 to 9,000 unique visitors a day. A fly-by audience is here, but it is going to be a largely silent one. You will see this reflected in some of the other statistics, such as pageviews, downloads and "buzz score". Some games, for example, despite not getting any comments or reviews with any real frequency, constantly find themselves "buzzing" on the frontpage due to this large audience. You veteran members of RMN will have immediately thought of the viral hit game Pom Gets Wi-Fi. (That game made huge waves at RMN in the summer of 2013 after it was played by Pewdiepie on his Youtube channel.)

The point being is that there is a large transient population visiting RMN. You game may be getting attention, but it is silent. Make note of your pageviews and subscriber counts in addition to comments when assessing whether or not you are doing well in building an audience. If you are here reading this article with concerns about your game, then it is likely that this silent transient population is in fact looking for what you are making (an indie RPG, presumably). Or maybe not...
Honestly surprised by this statistic the most.

How exactly do the anonymous visitors impact the Buzz score if they aren't interacting with the game content? (Especially for games without downloads?) Do game profile views factor in too?
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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author=Blind
How exactly do the anonymous visitors impact the Buzz score if they aren't interacting with the game content? (Especially for games without downloads?) Do game profile views factor in too?


As far as I know, page views generate buzz.
StevieRayBones
I refuse to grind with monsters I've just met for money.
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Good to read. Hoping myself and others who struggle can use these tips to get feedback. Thanks.
author=Marrend
author=Blind
How exactly do the anonymous visitors impact the Buzz score if they aren't interacting with the game content? (Especially for games without downloads?) Do game profile views factor in too?
As far as I know, page views generate buzz.

as do Downloads
I generally don't try (Even if I make a Novel out of every Blog I post, it's just a fun factor), but I do secretly hope somebody actually takes a quick look at my Games once in a while. Since I don't really care for buzz or making Money of off my Hobby, I just do whatever I care to do. (Also getting help from an Engine that has died 7 or so years ago also hurts me, because I wanna have cool things, but I'm no scripter so I'm generally screwed out of cool things.) I do still try though.
AtiyaTheSeeker
In all fairness, bird shrapnel isn't as deadly as wood shrapnel
5424
Everything I've been needing to hear and more concerning game making lately. :'D
There seems to be an attitude in hobby game development and in writing that you HAVE to make money and that if you say you're not interested in that then you're lying. One writer in particular referred to other writers who haven't profited from their work as "failed" authors. It's actually become quite demoralizing.

This is the first sane piece on marketing and self promotion I've ever seen.
I'm not in it for the money.

I'm in it for the makerscore*.



*rmn's made-up points system that has no real world value
author=kentona
I'm not in it for the money.

I'm in it for the makerscore*.



*rmn's made-up points system that has no real world value


I'll buy your makerscore for $10.
author=Bluefeathr42
There seems to be an attitude in hobby game development and in writing that you HAVE to make money and that if you say you're not interested in that then you're lying. One writer in particular referred to other writers who haven't profited from their work as "failed" authors. It's actually become quite demoralizing.

This is the first sane piece on marketing and self promotion I've ever seen.


I always work on my games as hobby/passion projects, and commercialism isn't even something I think about until later. My only commercial game, which was an enhanced version of a freeware game (which I encourage people to try if they're on the fence about the remake), only really came to be after the original was said and done.

I find that if I work on games with the intent of "Yes, I will absolutely develop this with the end goal of making money" then it becomes less fun, and my scope feels like it begins to narrow. And when it stops being fun, it isn't worth doing, because having fun and making games from the heart is why I started making them in the first place.
author=Bluefeathr42
There seems to be an attitude in hobby game development and in writing that you HAVE to make money and that if you say you're not interested in that then you're lying. One writer in particular referred to other writers who haven't profited from their work as "failed" authors. It's actually become quite demoralizing.


Those guys aren't aware that not everybody wants to make a living from their art, and thinking that everything you do must be done in order to get money no matter what is idiotic.
Some people make art just 'cause they like it or 'cause they're curious or want to experiment... it's not about money all the time, and I wish making things for the art was a more widespread practice.
Why I want this to stay a Hobby is because I think I'm a waaay too manipulative Person to be working for a Game Company or even materialized matters like Money. Obviously it's not true and Money won't always change somebody (at least not that drastically) however I do like to stay cautious, since making Money from doing Creative Stuff is not always going to work out.(Luck)
Of course it's a Lie that we're not interested in the Money or Fame or whatever the hell you get out of that. Me personally, I want these things... I want them to happen, because these are just the sins inside my Mind reminding me that it's just one of the more important things that really keeps you going. If you worked for only yourself (unless you are a strong emotional, a bit more selfish Person) then I think you really don't work for all the Things you want to work for, because you neglect them. I put them aside and dealt with them already and only ever mention them when my situation is really shitty... and 'lo and behold, because I kept denying the Fact that Money won't change anything, I got punished for it and got really stupidly emotional about it on a Blog for my Game, saying that I gave up.
People want honesty, proof of concept and the ability to be strong. At least that's the kinda Vibe I'm getting from this Place.
But I got actual reasons to be mad at myself, because I just stuck around with an Archaic Engine... but I chose not to be angry at myself, because that wouldn't fix anything.
And yes, this is me adverticing my Game and me trying to be clever and say something meaningful, which in the end, I'm not even sure about if it makes any sense in the context or whatever, but I did see a rather aggrovating response to "We don't do this for Money". People nowadays just try and find any sort of excuse to make them look smart or bitch about something.

In the end, it would be way easier to tell yourself that you are doing it for yourself and maybe a bit extra. It's also NOT a sin to not mention or deny that you don't want the Money! Everyone should know themselves, especially Artists.
author=Chivi-chivik
author=Bluefeathr42
There seems to be an attitude in hobby game development and in writing that you HAVE to make money and that if you say you're not interested in that then you're lying. One writer in particular referred to other writers who haven't profited from their work as "failed" authors. It's actually become quite demoralizing.
Those guys aren't aware that not everybody wants to make a living from their art, and thinking that everything you do must be done in order to get money no matter what is idiotic.
Some people make art just 'cause they like it or 'cause they're curious or want to experiment... it's not about money all the time, and I wish making things for the art was a more widespread practice.

I think you have to be careful with wording this because making things for the art IS already widespread practice. If it wasn't then the "starving artist" wouldn't be a popular descriptor of what the profession actually entails. The freelance art industry constantly deals with bullshit like this and asking for money for something isn't always for the sake of living off of it but for a principle. There's still this idea that labour ethics somehow doesn't apply to art and that's damaging to anyone being creative.

No one should feel pressured to sell their art but no one should feel "greedy" for doing it either. There's nothing wrong with asking for money with something you put time in and that's def way more discouraged when it comes to art.
author=Darken
I think you have to be careful with wording this because making things for the art IS already widespread practice. If it wasn't then the "starving artist" wouldn't be a popular descriptor of what the profession actually entails. The freelance art industry constantly deals with bullshit like this and asking for money for something isn't always for the sake of living off of it but for a principle. There's still this idea that labour ethics somehow doesn't apply to art and that's damaging to anyone being creative.

Yeah I wrote that thing too fast without thinking enough beforehand (I was just angry at that writer Bluefeathr42 mentioned). I know people constantly do things for the art, which is great. :) (But yeah it sucks that freelancers and other creative people who sell art have to deal with people who want to scam the crap out of them constantly >_<)


author=Darken
No one should feel pressured to sell their art but no one should feel "greedy" for doing it either. There's nothing wrong with asking for money with something you put time in and that's def way more discouraged when it comes to art.

I agree. In the end I make art commissions like many other people XD
author=zDS
author=kentona
I'm not in it for the money.

I'm in it for the makerscore*.

*rmn's made-up points system that has no real world value
I'll buy your makerscore for $10.


Ironically this is how bitcoin started...
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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That was fun to read and informative for newcomers to the site.

author=SgtMettool
author=Dyluck
I've always wondered, where do those other frontpage mainstays like Lisa, Pocket Mirror, Heartache 101, Oneshot, Dreaming Mary get their endless supply of large audiences from?
Mostly Tumblr/Twitter. There's definitely a large concentration of visibility on some of these mainstays. Fan art and other fan content for these games is still made on a regular basis, so a lot of folks come to this site to find those games specifically.

EDIT: It's also very likely that people are googling the game's title and find the game page. So I wonder how many people are seeing the front page at all?


RM games and tumblr are a mystery for me but they're big there. I would love to read an article on that scene.
Punkitt
notorious rpgmaker 2k3 shill
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Great stuff kentona!
Man, I needed to read this. I just released a demo (finally) after 6 years of on/off development and was wondering about how I could generate any interest. *bashes the refresh button* WHERE ARE MY VIEWS

I fondly remember the good ol' days when one could just release a demo and become instantly popular! I guess it's a sign of how popular RPG Maker has become (and I guess, in turn, indie game development).
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