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@JayAMurphy, Suzuricho: I'm going to give you two the best thing you could ever hope for:

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/
http://www.smogon.com


Anyways, I didn't think much of Shaymin originally, until I got to experience the power of Seed Flare firsthand. It's amazing. And Natural Cure - Rest does well enough to make up for the lack of instant recovery if you use him well. Specs Shaymin with Earth Power for coverage is made of win during the late game.

Simple, Good or Bad

author=GreatRedSpirit link=topic=2547.msg46901#msg46901 date=1227586413
Simple to the point that the game can be played by mashing a button? Pass.

I don't want some crazy complex game that I need a spreadsheet to figure out what I'm trying to do, but I'd rather have more options and complexity than something mind numbingly simple. Being able to come up with different strategies that take advantage of parts of the battle system or building characters in different ways is what I like to see; Especially to the point of where you could beat half the game without a single experience point.

Depth is what you're looking for. Depth =/= Complexity, though.

Top Ten Topic 54: Why Are You Guys so Mean Edition: Favorite Beverages

I mostly drink water, but I'm a sucker for citrus sodas, especially of the lemon/lime kind (Sierra Mist, Sprite, Sunkist, etc). I have no particular favorite beverages, but I do dislike Root Beer with a passion.

Simple, Good or Bad

K.I.S.S. is always good, but not to the point that the game is no longer entertaining.

Shouldn't Have Used that Megalixer, You Were Going to Lose Either Way!

author=harmonic link=topic=2525.msg46577#msg46577 date=1227487430
Okay, fine, but I'm saying you have yet to present a way that the good guys actually lose something. How would you implement it? (or should they always win at everything forever, like Power Thirst?)

Stop saying I want them to "win everything forever". I just want the possibility of winning to exist in every fight, and for it to mean something. The player shouldn't have to conform to some set storyline just "because." If he has to power to win a fight, allow him the chance to win the fight, and don't shit on him when he does.

author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2525.msg46618#msg46618 date=1227494282
Will you believe me that I got a summoner, ninja, and a samurai at chapter one without even cheating? :)

I've done similar, but that doesn't mean the beginning isn't hard. It just means you knew what to do to make it easier before having it hammered into your brain by the A.I.

Disgaea 3: Absence of Innocence

Looks like too much of the same from Disgaea 2. I don't think any of the new mechanics are enough to convince me to buy it. I couldn't if I wanted to, anyways - I don't own a PS3.

Shouldn't Have Used that Megalixer, You Were Going to Lose Either Way!

author=harmonic link=topic=2525.msg46456#msg46456 date=1227421440
So the heroes should win 100% of everything ever? What might I ask is your idea?

*slaps forehead*

All battles should be rewarding when you gain victory over them; a loss in the storyline as a consequence to a battle is just as bad as not getting any items, nor money, nor leveling up. That is what I was saying.

author=Max McGee link=topic=2525.msg46524#msg46524 date=1227467050
I would like to point out that even though Final Fantasy: Tactics does not use this technique even once, on my first play through I thought that fully 1/4 of the battles in it were like this, because that game is fucking HARD, at least on the first play through.

FFT has a ridiculous difficulty curve near the beginning. Once you've gotten past the Marquis Elmdor, though, the rest of the game is obnoxiously easy. Nevertheless, I still <3 FFT to pieces.

Shouldn't Have Used that Megalixer, You Were Going to Lose Either Way!

author=harmonic link=topic=2525.msg46442#msg46442 date=1227402424
You lost me...?

What I meant to say was "I was with you until..." My apologies.

I was saying that having to lose in-battle is bad, but having to lose outside of battle, especially if the battle is winnable, is intolerable...

Shouldn't Have Used that Megalixer, You Were Going to Lose Either Way!

author=harmonic link=topic=2525.msg46395#msg46395 date=1227373423
Battles you have to lose don't have to make you actually lose. You can be required to take down a certain amount of the boss's HP, or survive for a number of turns, meaning you "win" but then there can simply be a cutscene where the enemy says "HA HA! That was actually my dopey twin brother, I'm the REAL bad guy!" And reduces you to dust.

You lost me after the first sentence. Best example I can give is .hack//G.U.: twice in the Demon Palace Tournament, you're given a fight you're supposed to "half-win," and I felt fucking enraged because I could have easily just won the damn thing, but nooooooooo... the cutscene starts up and - surprise, surprise - you're losing instead and are coaxed into cheating by using an invisible, plot-related god weapon to win the match, which progresses the storyline but now all your allies who know what you actually did think you're a power-hungry bastard and not just a self-righteous douchebag. I mean, the guy went on ranting about how he can win the second match without using the plot-device, and yet he's forced to use it anyways because you're not allowed to actually win the battle.

That. Is. Unacceptable!

STOP POSTING HERE SO MUCH

author=Craze link=topic=2470.msg46304#msg46304 date=1227317994
Why are you on an internet discussion forum when you refuse to participate in actual discussion due to ______, _____ and ______? AeroGP this is not targeted specifically at you but I expect an answer!

You liar... xD
It's because I like to read the discussion and learn from it, and some part of me wants to participate at some point, even if in reality that point turns out to be "never".

author=Asalieri link=topic=2470.msg46335#msg46335 date=1227330415
Why are you on an internet discussion forum when you refuse to participate in actual discussion due to breakfast, lunch and dinner?

That's a very good question. Well you see...

Why does your response sound like something ThatGuyWithTheGlasses would say, only not witty?