BIZARREMONKEY'S PROFILE

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What I will state is that I know the power of words, a punc can give you a bruise, the right clusterbombing of words can be the impetus behind tears. Most of you wouldn't know this because I don't publicly advertise it, but I used to very commonly troll people around the place, I was a young idiot and needed a way to amuse myself. I'm not proud of any of it, but it made me appreciate the weight words hold.

It's like V himself says, words always retain their power, they are a means to meaning.

A punch says 'yo, I don't like you, so here's a bit of pain that'll be gone in a couple hours at most unless I really badly overdid it.'

Words can say things far more potent, but this virtually just boils down to a matter that SJW's have nothing to do with, and never have.

Be careful what you say yo. That's it, that's all there is to it, have some common sense, unless people are dying for something to lord over you, you'll do fine.

I've got over 60 friends on skype, at least 10 of which I talk to on a regular basis and have known for 3-6 years.

No one has blocked me unless we weren't really "friends" to begin with. I think I've run out of wind for this topics discussion.

@Penta: I wasn't comparing you to a SJW, by the way! Sorry if it sounded that way, I just meant you seemed pretty neutral on both sides of the debate, unlike fellas like me or McGee who are in violent opposition, or others who are in zealous defense.. if you could even call it that.

This is the great fear? That you won't be able to insult people as freely as you'd like?

I've already been over this, it's a slippery slope. Personally, for day to day use I wouldn't mind so much, it's the effect it would have on a various forms of entertainment that would be so devastating. You gotta put a bit more thought into it than 'oh you just can't insult people'.

If that rule gets dropped, it's a dangerous step towards a multitude of disasters. I know it won't get dropped, and even if it does, the Human Race in general is too bigoted to enforce it. But where you see insults as all bad, you need to take another look.

Political activism? Dead.
Mockery of any diety or historical figure, next on the list.
This is the progogated lean the slippery slope could lead to.

Not to mention that those leading the enforcement of such a rule will be people charged with spying in public places everyday, yeah... people who may be a shady CEO. Remember Big Brother?

That's a possible circumstance, except on a much more lightweight basis.

I know that's crackpot, but think if words started getting banned, how many of your favourite shows wouldn't exist anymore. You don't just blacklist insults, slurs, sure. I don't care because I can be funny without them, but even with slurs blacklisted, it will not solve any of the problems you face.

In fact, due to rebelling against 'da system', it's likely slurs will be used more, and folks of your sort may be treated more badly than they are currently, because you did something which impedes everyone.

I mean look how much flak gay fellas are getting in the US since the whole of the U.S. started legally allowing gay marriage. Don't get me wrong, it's a huge step forward, and I like it's finally a thing over there, (it sure isn't here, sadly :[) but what I'm saying is, that was minor, like that barely effected anyone who wasn't gay, sure the usual southern-blooded bigots got on their high horse, but they've just been ignored or mocked.

Censoring something effects a lot of people, and probably you as well. The outcry against censoring a fundamental word like idiot... man, we had a fucking cacophony of riots here when one of our coalition leaders tried to get the word 'ass' banned in favor of everyone using arse.

Okay yeah I made that up but it's an example.

author=Corfaisus
You missed the point. What I was clearly talking about is hallucinations such as seeing ghosts or hearing voices. Such things fall into the realm of psychosis which should be diagnosed and treated ASAP.

I was joking around.

I think his point was to establish that he isn't asking for any special rights just because he's ginger. That's at the least been my issue with this whole debacle, I don't mind if people don't want to be called sudden things, in most cases I'll adhere because contrary to how much I curse, I'm actually a pretty tolerant human being.

It's the narcissistic elitism and entitled pleas for mercy even when the peons themselves are being just as rude that annoys me. Corfaisus' example earlier in this thread which I jumped on is a perfect example.

I understand where you're coming from Penta, and you're probably the most level-headed I've seen speak on the topic. I'm glad you did bring up the difference between a slur and a label.

Slurs are a thing I am pretty careful about, because I know they were used for hate mongering. Insults are fine in my book, I get them on a daily basis, and give them on a daily basis, in jest or not.

What me and fellows like Max, Harmonic and others are concerned about is that Slurs will become in-distinguished from insults and that we will no longer be able to say 'idiot' or stuff like that. That is the goal of zealous Social Justice Warriors, and it's horrible.

I have said the f word (the other f'word not, fuck, come on... I use that all the time!) once here and I got a warn for it, and even though it was in jest, I understood why I had action taken on me and humbly accepted it.

If I said idiot and I got warned for it I don't think I'd be so willing to accept it, hell, who am I kidding, I'd start rallying people to say all the most insulting non-slur things they can just to prove a point. The perfect world of the social justice warriors is one where they themselves won't be happy. Humans have a baseline need to be dicks, that's what gets us anywhere.

You don't need slurs to be a dick, but you do need insults, imagine a world without insults?

Yeah, pretty boring, huh? And impossible.

author=Sated
An RMN Skype chat would be preferable to IRC for me.

Same here, I have a chat for the VX.netians. I'm hardcoded to dislike IRCs.

If no one else wants to, I could set it up, my skypename is bizarremonkey. Add me and I'll form us into something awesome.

I've got some experience running chats, like already mentioned I've been the one who organized the vx.net chat and I've also been running a Company through a collective chat. If everyone else is too lazy to initialize it, just add me on skype and I'll take care of it.

Some things to note, I'm not going to be any kind of strict moderator, and the only rules that will really matter are don't be an asshole just for the sake of it, this has been a successful strategy in the chats I've governed. Faffing about with vitriol and shit like that is fine, and encouraged usually.

On what I've been thinking about game dev wise... what boss mechanics to give Jolt and Hydro in 314th Clash.

author=Corfaisus
You do know that if you're seeing something that's not there that it's a sign of a serious mental illness, right?

Up to interpretation, some!

Like when you see a shape in a patterned cork floor it's just the human brain making something out of nothing, doesn't mean you're in possession of a mental illness, just that you have a decent imagination!

Man on the subject of Cats, much as I love them I just don't get them anymore, they love looking dollfaced at car headlights wayyyyy too much.

I've had over 10 cats in my life only two of which died from something that wasn't a car. And one went for the fucking record and got hit TWICE, oh Tripod ya silly goose!

I've had two dogs, one that is still alive and chases cars, neither have died by car, the former was put down because of a severe itching molt problem that just made him miserable, but he was super old anyway, and the other's over 8 years old now (human years) and is still boisterous. We called her Jojo.