MARKUST'S PROFILE

author=Kaempfer
@MarkusT:
I understand the frustration with the 2x2 autotile; I tried converting some autotiles from an old project as a test and was immediately annoyed at how much more difficult it was to use them correctly without bits clipping in where they didn't belong. Can't you shift+click to place tiles without interfering with the autotiles, though? I don't have that much experience with RMVX, but it seems like it might make sense to use the autotiles and then shift+click new, flat-edged dirt tiles wherever there is a long run of tiles (to avoid the jagged bits).

I have tried a lot of things... honestly, I think I will just stick with how it is now... sure it has the repeated bumps... but it is just a game.. a lot of 2D games of old have obvious repeating things going on.. it's still a big improvement over the default tiles.
MV is a huge pain in the ass..
I'm just going to leave it like it is.. it's not perfect no.. but i'm trying to keep the workload to a minimum.
I wish some programing genius would just come up with a plugin for MV... so like, during gameplay it calls a proper 3X3 auto tile sheet and displays it more properly during gameplay so you CAN have better more .. organic looking auto tiles.. rather than squared.. but so far every time i make a suggestion for any auto tile plugins, I am met with hostility.... happens with every suggestion i make for plugins that would help with MV limitations or graphics effects.
Thanks for the feedback folks, but i think i am happy for how it is now.

author=Kaempfer
@Markus:
I can only speak for myself, but I have no problem with the colours of the dirt. While the MV RTP is not very good, in this case the autotile doesn't visibly tile quite so badly.

Look at this:

This is not good. This is shouting "look at how tiled I am!". It completely disrupts the natural flow of the tile. I do like the shadow of the grass (to give it depth) and I think it's a big improvement, but these repeating, pointy grass bits need to go. They look fine as individual tiles, but as repeating edge pieces of an autotile they don't work.

Sadly, that is a side effect of a stupid ass decision by Kadokawa to design auto tiles the way they have.
The repeating points can NOT be fixed, if I remove the points you're speaking of, it will cause the corners to become more squared... it's how the auto tiles are set up.. you either have very f**king squared looking auto tiles, or you add angular corners which in turn cause those repeated points that are being pointed out.
So since sorry, I F**CKING HATE the squared assed look kadokawa wants to go with when it comes to auto tiles.
I got complaints before how the dirt was too like.. rounded and they needed changed up, so I changed it up to what they are.. so people need to make up their f**king minds!
I'm not mad at you or anyone else here.. I am PISSED at kadokawa for insisting on the same god damn auto tile setup that's f**cking been around since RPG Maker VX.
If Kadokawa would just f**king make them 3 by 3 tiles again, you would not get that repeating sharp thing, and I could have my landscapes NOT be f**king blocky and squared as F**KING hell like an old god damn dragon quest game on the SNES!
Look back at the way i did the dirt prior to that... it was smooth.. their will ALWAYS be a weird repeat of bumps or points because of how god damn difficult it is to f**king work with the f**cking auto tiles... UGH!!
I'm angry cause it's frustrating me.. I have different people pointing out different "problems" and when i fix one issue, it causes another issue...
I can't win for losing.
I miss XP's 3x3 tile set up for auto tiles... it was easy in XP to avoid a blocky auto tiles... MV SHOULD HAVE gotten rid of that retarded assed set up they have... technically it's still made 3x3 but only the center tile is 48pixels wide and tall... the 2 side ones are 48 tall 24 wide... the one at the top is 48 wide and 24 tall.. and the corner ones are 24 tall 24 wide... because of this weird ass setup... making anything NOT blocky results in a repeat of a pattern on the top and sides.. so it's either blocky effing auto tiles.. or i give it the corners i want but end up with the repeat being pointed out here as an issue...
I dunno what to do short of tossing MV and telling Kadokawa to get their s**t together.
-edit-
Sorry for blowing up...
I been struggling with this sort of stuff awhile now.. even I see the issue... everything I try just sorta ends up looking bad in some way... so I sorta just gotta pick what sort of annoyance I want in the graphics.. squared, or obvious repeats..

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by too sharp.

So... this is a tileset I'm working on for my game.. I made the grass, the sand for the coasts the coasts themselves and the mountains.
The dirt trails are just an edit from some MV tiles that already exist.
It's not complete, as I plan to make custom trees.. MAYBE custom water.. the water is existing water I just did some coloring.
I'm struggling with fixing auto tiles as I can't stand MVs squared look...
It is VERY annoying..
And I know it is not perfect... and I realize more needs done with it.
Before folks give feedback, keep in mind, I love the grass, I have no intent on changing it for ANY reason.. so just keep that one little thing in mind.
As for the mountains and everything else.. even i'm looking at it going "ehhh.... uhh... ugh" I'm just not sure what do... I suck at this high rez 48x48 tile art... I miss the 16 bit era.. I miss 16x16 lol.
I'm sure I could do better mountains... but I won't mess with them until I get some feedback... if folks think they look bad, I will make something better.
Oh and sorry about the big image... I can't get spoilers to work..

This is early work on my game.
I'm rather proud of my battle sprites.
I was wanting to invoke a response of "hey they look like they're from FF6!"when i started working on them.

The monster is just a placeholder, as i plan to try drawing my monsters.. and i need to gain an understanding of creating battlebacks.
I'm also looking for feedback on the window graphics, input on that would be rather appreciated on that as well.
(I don't remember how to do a spoiler!)