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a 2.5d explorer/horror game about NEURAL-9, a memory disease that spreads via eye contact
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JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
Here's scumchat https://controlc.com/d3b8ca17
Not too much exciting except for Odd magically divining Shinan=doc and me getting nervous and monologuing a ton at the end.
and I guess
Not too much exciting except for Odd magically divining Shinan=doc and me getting nervous and monologuing a ton at the end.
and I guess
[5:03 PM] Imaginary: I think Dyluck is really irritating me, so I'd rather lose the game than let him win.
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
Thanks for making a show at the end Dyluck, this was fun.
Scum trivia:
- We actually didn't submit a nightkill on day 1, figuring it'd be no fun. Our choices were either kill a newbie or kill someone who was actively talking
- The Shinan nk was locked in well before Liberty posted anything about her spy power. Neither Odd nor I saw her post until the day after
- Odd and I were both watching the thread at the end of day3 -- if Dyluck had self-voted, Odd would've voted WaKa to tie it up
- Clint was killed specifically because if he wasn't the joker, then, we'd have a Big Problem. I legit did not expect his NK to succeed
I was very, very worried at the end that Ozzy or someone would start asking "why is Psy so convinced that Dyluck can't be scum?" and then I'd be dead. There were contingency plans for me or Odd to claim as scum and come forward to say who the joker could or could not be, but Dyluck beat us to the punchline and we'd just look like jokers ourselves after that.
e:
Scum trivia:
- We actually didn't submit a nightkill on day 1, figuring it'd be no fun. Our choices were either kill a newbie or kill someone who was actively talking
- The Shinan nk was locked in well before Liberty posted anything about her spy power. Neither Odd nor I saw her post until the day after
- Odd and I were both watching the thread at the end of day3 -- if Dyluck had self-voted, Odd would've voted WaKa to tie it up
- Clint was killed specifically because if he wasn't the joker, then, we'd have a Big Problem. I legit did not expect his NK to succeed
I was very, very worried at the end that Ozzy or someone would start asking "why is Psy so convinced that Dyluck can't be scum?" and then I'd be dead. There were contingency plans for me or Odd to claim as scum and come forward to say who the joker could or could not be, but Dyluck beat us to the punchline and we'd just look like jokers ourselves after that.
e:
author=OzzyTheOnegod dammit
but rest assured next time I won't listen to you at all :)
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
^^ That should've read Ozzy/Odd, Ozzy/Eggbert, Eggbert/Odd where the commas were, but now I realize this just means one of ozzy/odd is bussing and would rather lose their scumpartner Eggbertx today then lose the game to joker-Dyluck
#cancel
#vote Eggbertx
#cancel
#vote Eggbertx
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
My possible scum team pairings were , , . I can't see non-town voting with town here if the target was scum. It would be better to withhold.
@Eggbertx: you need to vote to have a chance here.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/26033/?post=928947#post928947 gives me the creeps, more so than Ozzy
#vote Oddrabbit
@Eggbertx: you need to vote to have a chance here.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/26033/?post=928947#post928947 gives me the creeps, more so than Ozzy
#vote Oddrabbit
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
author=OzzyTheOne
Here it is for everyone to see, how you cannot see this as Clint telling us that Dyluck is not vanilla is beyond me Psy.
I also think that's the most likely interpretation, but he was also talking about eggs previously, and I don't understand what the "bizarre" in "none of them were plain or just bizarre" would mean. I also don't understand why being non-vanilla would make Clint want to kill him.
re: the timing of the play -- in a world where Dyluck and I are scumbuddies, letting today just draw to a close with only you and Liberty voting against Dyluck would be a scum win.
author=OzzyTheOne
Ouch, is losing to me that hurtful? Am I that dumb in your eyes? :/
more like my brain's got a win/loss board somewhere and I don't want to put another mark in the L column
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
Huh, so yeah, there is a way to win even with only two town votes if town #3 doesn't cast a vote -- the joker would be compelled to vote with town, break the 2/2 tie, and continue the game.
@Liberty: there is no reading that Clint could've gotten on Dyluck that would distinguish between jester and scum. "vanilla" just makes him less likely to be town, if that's what Clint was indicating at all. If you're also correct in thinking that alchemist is scum, wouldn't then "vanilla" and "no night action" readings on Dyluck make it more likely that he's jester?
Also if I were jester I would've counterclaimed you on day2
I would move to an Eggbert vote if we need to tie things up at EOD for Dyluck to cast the tiebreaker. Two votes now would put him in quickhammer range (unlikely but w/e). Also trying to decide how much of my opinion is tied up in "I don't want to lose to Ozzy" vs "Ozzy is acting like scum" -- I was really kind of thinking Ozzy was secretly the alchemist.
Alchemist should claim. Odd and Egg should post.
#cancel
@Liberty: there is no reading that Clint could've gotten on Dyluck that would distinguish between jester and scum. "vanilla" just makes him less likely to be town, if that's what Clint was indicating at all. If you're also correct in thinking that alchemist is scum, wouldn't then "vanilla" and "no night action" readings on Dyluck make it more likely that he's jester?
Also if I were jester I would've counterclaimed you on day2
I would move to an Eggbert vote if we need to tie things up at EOD for Dyluck to cast the tiebreaker. Two votes now would put him in quickhammer range (unlikely but w/e). Also trying to decide how much of my opinion is tied up in "I don't want to lose to Ozzy" vs "Ozzy is acting like scum" -- I was really kind of thinking Ozzy was secretly the alchemist.
Alchemist should claim. Odd and Egg should post.
#cancel
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
I thought it wasn't likely that there was only one scum because:
- They'd need a hell of a good role,. Stronger than spy. Then again two town PRs have dropped to back to back, so ??
- Mafia's ultimately a team game, or at least I always try to play to spot interactions. It seems like a bad setup to have only one scum.
But then again, I think joker setups are just bad in general (because anyone can yell I'M JOKER and get a 50/50 shot) or maybe Emily's counting is "two non-town people."
So, while I guess it's possible, I also don't think it's safe to end the game on a tie and cross our fingers.
I hadn't really noticed that about Eggbert although I really, really don't like that they haven't appeared since Dyluck's claim. It makes me think they're content to let the day end as is, which at this point I think only benefits Dyluck (almost certainly a bad thing) or reserving their vote (what I'm afraid of is both scum members withholding until the last couple minutes and forcing some sort of tie, which would be really really easy with a scum voter on Dyluck).
Odd I do believe is constrained by his schedule regardless of alignment, but, if there are two scum and he's town, we /need/ him to put down a vote to survive. Which applies to Eggbert as well, and unfortunately Liberty a well who is still on Dyluck.
- They'd need a hell of a good role,. Stronger than spy. Then again two town PRs have dropped to back to back, so ??
- Mafia's ultimately a team game, or at least I always try to play to spot interactions. It seems like a bad setup to have only one scum.
But then again, I think joker setups are just bad in general (because anyone can yell I'M JOKER and get a 50/50 shot) or maybe Emily's counting is "two non-town people."
So, while I guess it's possible, I also don't think it's safe to end the game on a tie and cross our fingers.
I hadn't really noticed that about Eggbert although I really, really don't like that they haven't appeared since Dyluck's claim. It makes me think they're content to let the day end as is, which at this point I think only benefits Dyluck (almost certainly a bad thing) or reserving their vote (what I'm afraid of is both scum members withholding until the last couple minutes and forcing some sort of tie, which would be really really easy with a scum voter on Dyluck).
Odd I do believe is constrained by his schedule regardless of alignment, but, if there are two scum and he's town, we /need/ him to put down a vote to survive. Which applies to Eggbert as well, and unfortunately Liberty a well who is still on Dyluck.
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
#cancel
#vote OddRabbit
Odd -- I need to know whether you're alchemist, and I need you to vote at least once this game.
#vote OddRabbit
Odd -- I need to know whether you're alchemist, and I need you to vote at least once this game.
JOKER WILD MAFIA (GAME OVER)
I voted for WaKa over Dyluck yesterday solely because I thought Dyluck was the joker. And lo and behold he is the joker.
I should also point out I've been towny to null on you for days 1-3, minus my d1 jokepost.
and this entire thing https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/26033/?post=928512#post928512
Mainly what's changed is clint's flip making the role look dubious at best. You're suuure you're not the alchemist?
I'm also curious who your second scum would be if you assume I'm town. Eggbert/Odd? (I'm definitely not buying Liberty)
I should also point out I've been towny to null on you for days 1-3, minus my d1 jokepost.
author=psy_wombats
Ozzy's roleclaim is very very dubious in that it's unproveable negative utility... and there's multiple town roles with actual (mild) positive utility out there. But I don't think his actions so far have been at all scummy, minus throwing a vote at me..
author=psy_wombats
Given that, I just don't think spy and alchemist have much utility, regardless of alignment, to the point where Ozzy's claim doesn't ring alarm bells for being strictly negative utility.
author=psy_wombats
I'm town-y on Ozzy as well (if less a bit now) so guess that's a wash.
and this entire thing https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/26033/?post=928512#post928512
Mainly what's changed is clint's flip making the role look dubious at best. You're suuure you're not the alchemist?
I'm also curious who your second scum would be if you assume I'm town. Eggbert/Odd? (I'm definitely not buying Liberty)
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