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author=Fallen-Griever
I guess if you don't want any more technological or medicinal developments then academia isn't something you'd consider to be "productive"
Advancements as in electricity, flying machines and penicillin? Products of free market capitalism?
Or did you mean liquid band-aid and Gatorade?
In all fairness, universities have certainly accomplished some great things, and having the students do active research helps keep them current with the times.
But there's a problem with letting academia have a stranglehold on acceptable progress. University science departments become institutionalised and eventually the old saying applies : Science advances one funeral at a time.
Also, many large companies have Research & Development departments that do the same thing, but they don't require me to pay higher tuition.
Lastly, many advances have come from basements and garages.
author=Fallen-Griever
are you really that stupid?
What, are you getting mad because you're consistently being wrong and I'm pointing it out? :(
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author=harmonic
One point you made CANNOT be argued. Post-secondary is massively overrated, and in America, a wide swath of people, some of whom actually matter, are starting to realize this.
I thought you'd agree. You're one of those people with a proven portfolio rather than a piece of paper on the wall.
(I'm basing this on what I saw in the Dondoran Music folder)
author=Fallen-Griever
What this style of post-secondary education does is enable kids to specialise before entering the work-force or before entering university. It allows them to focus on what they want to do. Instead of forcing all kids to do calculus and stuff like that from ages 16-18 (you do that in America, right? All kids do maths and have to do calculus?), only those who want to do maths have to study it. I think it is a better system.
Back in the early 1900's (literally 1900-1910 or so), post-secondary in the US cost roughly a factory worker's week's wages for a one year course.
Of course, back then the social situation was different. People wanted to get out of school and become productive members of society. But maybe that was because specializing education was more about education and less about the entitled culture of academia.
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Before you make a statement like "the poorer you are the worst universities you get into", keep in mind that America's most successful businessmen actually dropped out of school at some point.
Post-secondary isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Post-secondary isn't all it's cracked up to be.
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If you're trying to do something like MGS VR Missions or Power Dolls-esque unrelated levels, it could be a tough angle to attack from. The flaw in not having a storyline is that the game will be handicapped by lack of clear direction and a goal. Without that, the player will feel as though they may as well be playing minesweeper or solitaire. It's the difference between playing to waste time and playing to accomplish something.
All you'd really need is "Okay guys. We're going to overthrow the tyrannical emperor. Our journey begins in this remote village. Bring lunch money." Throw in a recurring villain or two.
On another topic, is there hope for an Aurora Wing 2?
All you'd really need is "Okay guys. We're going to overthrow the tyrannical emperor. Our journey begins in this remote village. Bring lunch money." Throw in a recurring villain or two.
On another topic, is there hope for an Aurora Wing 2?
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author=ThiamorNot all education is worthless. As mentioned before, practical or licensed skills like plumbing or crane operation will always be useful.
It isn't useless if the places you want to go to accepts it with no other exceptions, now is it?
But for an artist, those 3 years of prescribed education are probably better spent building a viable portfolio. For a local example, Archeia_Nessiah is more likely to get a visual arts job than some guy with a diploma and the same drawings/paintings everybody else in his class has.
author=chanaAnything competitive should be left to the market. Monopolies should not exist, ever.
Exepting selling candy bars and soap, nothing should be left to the market, especially NOT education.
There's nothing wrong with public education. It's more of a social obligation than a competitive enterprise. What's wrong is using public funds to subsidize private education. You may notice that through grades 1-12, you have the option of free public education or expensive private. But for post-secondary, you only have expensive private with the public purse unconditionally backstopping whatever they charge.
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Timeline of what's happening : University sends student bill. Student applies for student loan. Government pays University tuition fee up-front. Student goes to University. Student graduates, then slowly pays it off over the course of his lifetime.
Sounds good in theory. The problem lies in the practise.
The student doesn't directly feel the cost of tuition. The "tax-like" repayment scheme? Who gives a crap. That doesn't even start until years into the future. And we all know government doesn't care about spending costs either. That's why government contracts are so sought after. As a result, the University is free to jack up rates as high as they like.
If there was no student loan system, or just a minimal loan system that resembled a bank loan, tuition fees would come down. Instead, you pay $30,000 to draw fruit for 3 years and then get a worthless piece of paper saying "This dude is an artist" except in more sophisticated language with a font you can't download and bitchin' italics. And now you owe someone $30,000 plus interest.
I'm all for the Right to an Education, but only until grade 12. Post-secondary should be left to the market.
Sounds good in theory. The problem lies in the practise.
The student doesn't directly feel the cost of tuition. The "tax-like" repayment scheme? Who gives a crap. That doesn't even start until years into the future. And we all know government doesn't care about spending costs either. That's why government contracts are so sought after. As a result, the University is free to jack up rates as high as they like.
If there was no student loan system, or just a minimal loan system that resembled a bank loan, tuition fees would come down. Instead, you pay $30,000 to draw fruit for 3 years and then get a worthless piece of paper saying "This dude is an artist" except in more sophisticated language with a font you can't download and bitchin' italics. And now you owe someone $30,000 plus interest.
I'm all for the Right to an Education, but only until grade 12. Post-secondary should be left to the market.
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author=Fallen-Griever
Sorry, I'm not big on assuming that the Police are always doing something suspicious. Not a big conspiracy theory guy.
You don't need to be a "big conspiracy theory guy" to witness police corruption. It's in the newspapers all the time.
author=supremewarrior
Police need to impose Martial Law, Zero Tolerance!
Sorry, but Martial Law has no place in civilized society. No matter the circumstances or the spin, martial law is a license to apply force first and serve warrant later. Legalized oppression.
The real solution is, as you mentioned, for Society to take a stand against them. Kind of like how the ethnic minorities are protecting their own, shopkeepers and storeowners need to protect their own as well.
author=Deckiller
The rest of the civilized world has it tough too....almost as tough as the mass death in Africa brought on by famine and overpopulation. d^_^b
Mass death in Africa has nothing to do with overpopulation. The famine is an artificial product of crushing debt owed to the World Bank and will not end if the population is reduced to one guy.
Now, I have to make a fuss because there's a lot of stuff said in FG's previous post that is either fallacious or untrue =(
author=Fallen-Griever
People who are worried about tuition fees should realise that they'll never actually have to pay them off. The way Student Loan Company repayments work is based on your salary upon gaining employment and ends up being like a tax. The % of your wages that this "tax" is set at is so low that, unless you get a really high-paid job, you'll probably never manage to pay off some of the tuition fee loans people are going to have to take out with these new £9K/year tuition fees. Besides, because the % is so low, it isn't even an issue in the first place because you won't even notice the amounts that are being taken.
Somehow this makes it okay? The loan comes from somewhere. If it isn't being paid by the student who is indebted for life curtesy of unlimited extortionist tuition fees, it's paid by the taxpayers.
It's a broken system and it needs to be amended.
author=Fallen-Griever
It's not like the Student Loans Company are going to come knocking on your door for money, because they're not allowed to do that.
That can actually be changed in a single piece of legislation passed on a sunny afternoon.
author=Fallen-Griever
The SLC is a government-run agency, they aren't a bank.
This is actually a worse scenario :D A government-run agency borrows money from the bank and relies on tax dollars to repay the debt when losses exceed gains. A bank at least has to maintain a positive balance sheet, which would then result in lower tuition fees thanks to decreased accessibility to loans.
author=Fallen-Griever
The kids who are participating in these riots may complain about a "lack of options" when questioned, but the reality is that these are the kind of kids who purposefully acted out in school and ended up with no qualifications as a result:
What nonsense. Only 20 years ago, a highschool education was enough to get you into a high paid manufacturing job. If you wanted more, post-secondary was there to help.
In that time frame, the post-secondary schooling industry has transformed into a beast of profit, offering garbage degrees like Philosophy, General Arts and Business Administration.
It's difficult to explain what's gone wrong with the transition from Education to the Workforce without writing an essay. All I can summarize is that the social and economic situations leading to this sad scenario are far too extensive to simply resort to sweeping generalisations like "They goofed off in school so this is what they get."
author=Fallen-Griever
What kind of options were they expecting? The government does a lot to support them through the benefits system with job seeker's allowance, housing benefits and the like
These programs are sponsored by two sources : Tax revenue and Borrowing. Borrowing forces tax rates to increase, so it boils back to tax revenue. Tax revenue damages the productive economy, which eliminates jobs.
Do you see the Catch-22?
I do agree that rioting is useless and malicious. It'll change nothing in the long run.
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author=Fallen-Griever
As for that guy who was shot, it's being reported now that a non-Police firearm was found at the scene. Non-police bullets have also been found at the scene, although the bullet that hit a policeman may have been the result of friendly fire. The Police were looking to arrest a guy for possessing a firearm, someone shot at them and it turns out the person they were trying to arrest had a firearm. Seems like they were in the right, to me.
I would be very skeptical of this. Police world-wide are notorious for looking after their own by planting something or coordinating an alibi.
Plus, it seems like something out of Cheech and Chong Riot in London. Oh, turns out there's another gun at the scene. We found it in a trash can. How about that? This changes everything!













