WCOUILLARD'S PROFILE

author=Liberty
While we don't allow theft... this is clearly not a deliberate and/or malicious case of theft.
To be perfectly honest, the window causing this whole issue looks a lot like a mix of the default 2k/3 and Ace window systems mixed together. It's highly generic and most people have arrows like that because they are the RTP arrows...

The gradient is like a recolour of the default 2k3 window.

The actual target window is quite familiar to the one you made, Will, but that's the only thing that looks non-default. Even the font colours are the basic RTP ones (with an edit to the first two).

Liberty, I love ya pal, but I gotta disagree.

The arrows are ripped from FF4 PSP, and I edited them to look the way they do, for the windowskin (black wasn't working for me). Easy enough to do, but I'm not gonna whine about an edit of a rip, as far as the arrows go.



The window is a gradient I created to emulate the window it's based on (as shown in the image I provided). The windowskin jin keeps posting attempting to prove it isn't mine is the FF7 style windowskin used in my RSW release. The images I provided show that there were others in the Lite Demo release, which as of three days ago, still had a download up, and all of which can be put together to make the windowskin he's using. It does not matter if he got it from somewhere else and didn't "intend" to steal it. The fact that he still justified it and claimed it was OK after irrefutable proof was given is the issue at hand here. That isn't OK.



That's the default VX Ace windowskin, which as you can tell, doesn't have ANYTHING the same as the ones I made in any of the sections.

Lastly, let's do this. Here is a Windowskin I just made, FF7 styled, with different selections, arrows (FF7 didn't use arrows or a selection space, so I left those pretty generic), and the actual colors used in the original game (at IDs 4, 16, 17, and 27). The window comes in both the normal default color, and the one used for Limit Breaks. The colors are taken directly from uncompressed FF7 screenshots. Use these in your project, jin. These are now yours. Do what you want with them. Distribute it, grant permission, don't grant permission. That's on you.



I have never denied anyone assistance, if I can offer it. I've helped many folks from RMN with a bunch of different things. Without it, NONE of us would be making anything and posting it here. Respect and courtesy have to be a thing, though. Communities like this just won't work without it.

Here's my suggestion to you, jin. Make a credits page for your gamepage. Keep it updated. When you're grabbing resources, take a note of who made it or CLAIMED to make it, and put it in your credits page (and preferably in your game upon release). That's the only responsibility you have as a creator using community resources. This way you avoid "I got it somewhere else, I don't remember" situations if someone contacts you about their resources being used (with your knowledge or without it). It's A) a good practice anyway, and B) helps to avoid confrontations with authors and artists who suddenly find their stuff being used without permission or credit.

Last piece of advice: don't get so aggressive when people talk about your work, whether it be the quality or the resources. I'm not the first person you gave a jerk response to, you also did that to Vanit. "You worry about your game, I'll worry about mine, instead of criticizing you can be releasing a new demo" is not a nice response to someone taking the time to review what you're showing to improve it (it's actually one of the reasons we have these pages to begin with).

I'll say this again; if I can help, I'll help.

You're confusing using rips with stealing handmade resources by others in the community. It's a common misconception used by resource thieves when they're trying to justify themselves to the people they're stealing from, when they get caught.

Not once did I ask you not to use any rips that were in our project. Like I said before in my post on FFD's gamepage regarding this issue, rips have always been the unwritten exception to the rule. The windowskins are NOT rips, I'll say it again. They are recreated to look like the originals, but you can compare them yourself and see the subtle differences. Now, I've already PROVEN that I made them, and you still want to pretend like that never happened and it's your right to use whatever the hell you want. I don't care if you took the windowskin yourself or got it from someone else who stole it, there's proof right here in this blog post that it's not your work.

Let's paint a picture for you. See your sprites of Cloud? I'm going to assume you made them at this point, even though you probably didn't. How would you like if someone just took those, used them in their game, and didn't bother to ask you or credit you for them? Would you say, "oh well" because it looks like a character that's copyrighted by Square Enix, or would you say, "this isn't right. I drew those myself." Think about that for a second. Millions of pieces of fan art from every medium are made every day. Do those artists not deserve the recognition and RESPECT from others in their community because they're creating art based on existing art? As far as I'm concerned, and many others, an 8x8 sprite is the same as a full canvas painting in this respect. They're someone else's work, no matter how big or small.

What you're suggesting is the same as you and I going to work in the same place, and you putting in 50 hours a week while I sit and watch TV in the break room, and at the end of the week, I GET YOUR PAYCHECK.

If it's not a rip, isn't free for public use (as stated in the terms of use) and you didn't make it, DON'T. USE. IT. WITHOUT. ASKING. It's very, very simple. Here's the kicker, too. Most people here are totally cool about this stuff when you go about it the correct way. Had you asked, I'm sure I would have said, "Sure." I even sent you my updated script, passed on a link to sound effects, and explained some script things for you. I also told one of your other team members to let me know id I can help. So obviously, this is not a situation where I'm overreacting. I even asked very nicely for you not to use resources that weren't supposed to be used, which was promptly ignored.

Argue and debate it all you want, but the rules here are pretty clear when it comes to stealing things from other people. So you have a simple choice: remove the things you stole, and don't display them here again without permission or credit, or continue to act hard and go make a page for your half-assed project somewhere else when this one gets deleted. I've already brought this to the attention of the admins here at RMN.

And just so we're clear, IN WRITING, NO, you don't have permission to use either mine or Paul's non-public resources.

Alright, so let's play it this way. I'll send the actual PSD files, with each LAYER, of every window skin I made to the admins here, and you can kiss your game page goodbye since you refuse to do the honorable thing and ask to use things. On top of that, you go ahead and lie about it. Tell me, where is the "somewhere else" you took my my resources from? I'd love to know.

Like I said before, none of the windowskins I made are rips. I recreated them by hand. You're using a font I made, too. Didn't complain about that. I publicly released it and granted permission for it to be used.

I sent you the link to a PUBLIC script that I released that anyone can use. I didn't say "use any line of code" from my project. So don't cop an attitude and tell anyone to chill out when you're stealing code, resources and movie files from other people without so much as a heads-up to those creators. You already had to remove something from your page for blatant theft. You're wrong, end of story.

See, if you're going to lie about it, then we have a problem. Don't use anything from FFD. I know for a fact it's the one I made, since I kept the same highlighted area on all of the windowskins I made (the rectangle area with the blue outline that shows when you're selecting something).

Remove it.

If it's a demake of a Final Fantasy game meant to match the original in as many ways as is possible by the VX Ace program, it should use the font from that game, if you ask me. The font here is the one from FF4 on PSP. I would never say it looks bad (being that I released it), but if you have the option to use the FF7 font, I'd go with that.

The hurdle faced with that is that the resolution of a VX Ace game is much higher than that of a PSX game. The FF7 font would look very small. Still, there are plenty of TrueType fonts that would look good.